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Great New Year to all,
What would be most appropriate globe size and material for use on my type 2177 G&B ten gallon visible. It had a wide body glass when I acquired it, do you think it would more period correct to have 16" metal body and lenses. Where can I purchase reproduction Northstar lenses? Many thanks, would like to post vintage photo of the pump in question but it seems sort of complicated, and I'm practically computer illiterate!

I don't know the serial number you are referring to but the Visible I have in mind is a T-177. They were very common pumps and were used by Esso , well Exxon dealers in their day.I don't why you can't use either globe . Uh Russ Wanzunk in Thunder Bay might know where you might find a globe . I haven't heard from him in years . tell em I said Hi if you run in to em. Ed Shaver

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see ya on the road folks !

Bert

Where are you in manitoba? A thirteen and a half milk glass body would be fine. I do know that you will not find a repo north star lense in sixteen and a half it will be 15 or 13 and a half inches.

ward

In the U.S. the pump was a 177, this indicated it was gallons. In Canada they added a 2 to the number to indicate it was metric.

Jack Sim
Author, Gas Pump Identification book and Air Meter Identification book, both ready to order at: www.petrolianacollectibles.com

Metric system never came into Canada till the 1970's....no one understood it till the 90's!!!!

Jack how cum you be so smart? I shouldda known dat! Ed Shaver

Jack is right most g nad b pumps in canada start with a two gilbarco 96s are 296s ect. Kim is also right about the metric system.

ward

Greetings Gas Group- thanks to all for quick and informative replies. Yes..., my visible is Imperial gallon graduated and was located at Co-op fuel and hardware depot in my small village of Haywood, Manitoba during era of my boyhood; afterwards, when the Co-op modernized to newer- style pumps in the fifties,it was purchased by a local farmer for his own use. I acquired it in the early 1990's along with windmill, '46 Dodge 3 ton special and sundry other agricultural items. The pump had been sitting out in the open, totally unprotected from the elements. Amazing that the 13 1/2" milk glass globe and one CO-OP lens survived intact and unscathe through numerous hailstorms, withstood gale-force winds,arctic winters and decades of freeze-thaw cycles it must have endured. My mistake, yes I realize repro. lenses and metal globe bodies are only available in 15". Does anyone have info. about "Gas Station Nostalgia"; (Edmonton, Alberta) are they still in business,they were a source in the past. I will have to give them a call, just wondered if anyone knew off-hand about their status. Just can't seem to upload an image to this site, I'm definitely challenged in this regard here.

Bert,
Read thru this http://www.oldgas.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=000001
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Bert

You stated yes I realize repo lenses and metal bodies are only avalable in 15 inch. This is not true there are 13 and a half inch metal bodies and lenses in repo avalable.

ward

Imperial gallons is English isn't it?
Different from Metric which is LITRES.

I know the old Norton motorcycles used nuts and bolts that required a special set of tools.... not American and not Metric.

Imperial gallons is based on the metric system. The British thread size you're referring to was known as Whitworth. I had a BSA motorcycle many moons ago and had some Whitworth bolts as spares. ---KEVIN

I know when I was rebuilding METERS, some of them would come in w/ IMPERIAL gears on them....
If you did not notice the difference it would throw the whole calibration process out of whack.
Sometimes it was only one tooth difference.

The older, Wayne #2pm2 & #2pm3,ECT, have different stud placement holes on top for IMPERIAL GEARS

Your right Joe. The Imperial gallon is English,British,Australian,etc. Has absolutely nothing to do with the metric system which is in liters...mm

Hey, mm. it looks like you finally got all these USA guys straighten out on our Metric/Imperial measure system.... I hope ??? ha,ha,ha,,LOL !!!..It sure reads funny when reading this thread..
As most of the Americans know from a long time ago, back in the 70's the USA and Canada were going to join the rest of the world and change to metric. The USA and Canada started to change and the USA stopped for some reason and Canada carried on with the change. So now USA has it's own measuring system and the rest of the world ( at least pretty well the rest) have a Metric measure system.. Did I explain that right ???

I had always thought that that was the case...
Imperial Gallons = English Empire and was not part of the metric system
Along w/ stone as a weight measure.
I am not educated in Canadian history...but weren't parts if not all provinces, part of the English Empire at one time?

WES--My father once told me that its alright to be wrong if you learn from it and I was wrong here! It was so long ago that my mind had it that Imperial gallons was done in the metric system but at that time of my life, I could have cared less WHAT system they used! Somehow it all meshed together to me but when you brought up the fact that the US and Canada were going to adopt the metric system----a light came on somewhere and my memory woke up a little!
I know that I am right about the Whitworth measurement on bolt threads tho and that should have been my first clue because the threads would have been metric if the liquid measure was!
Anyway---You guys have got me set straight for today but with the way my memory bounces around, I may need your help again soon! LOL

WES--My father once told me that its alright to be wrong if you learn from it and I was wrong here! It was so long ago that my mind had it that Imperial gallons was done in the metric system but at that time of my life, I could have cared less WHAT system they used! Somehow it all meshed together to me but when you brought up the fact that the US and Canada were going to adopt the metric system----a light came on somewhere and my memory woke up a little!
I know that I am right about the Whitworth measurement on bolt threads tho and that should have been my first clue because the threads would have been metric if the liquid measure was!
Anyway---You guys have got me set straight for today but with the way my memory bounces around, I may need your help again soon! LOL

Hey No problem Kevin,,,, I was just getting a chuckle out of the conversation,,,, actually I was laughing,,,, this measurement system has been around Canada like mm said, from the early 70's and I still don't have the inches and feet to centimeters and millimeters and meters thing figured out.. I'm OK with liters to gallon thing because I had some service stations from the late 70's to late 80's and I'm OK with the temperature thing ( celsius to fahrenheit)but not any good with the pounds to kilograms etc....
wish we could have stayed with the Imperial system but the younger generation says the metric system is easier... ( I'm to old to learn I guess), but not to old to laugh,,,, LOL !!!

We won't come to your house with angry mob & torches...

Ward- It appears as though I may have had a senior moment when referring to globe and lens sizes and dimensions, not unusual for me! I know what's out there, and have catologs and reference literature galore also not forgetting all the excellent resources available on this great site.
Regards to all.

WOW! finally managed it! Sorry my image blurry. Merci Dick Bennett and no chevys.

Hmmm , is the cylinder half empty or half full?