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#183566 - Fri Apr 16 2010 03:03 PM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: swaz602]
DIESEL Offline
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Registered: Tue Nov 24 2009
Loc: TEXAS
Originally Posted By: swaz602
LOL! I already have enough collections. All I need is to get hooked on something else!

Originally Posted By: Dick Bennett
Forget working on the VR & pump & get the Fence built ! Pumps MULTIPLY faster than Rabbits & it Doesn't take a mating pair to get out of hand !
LOL
laugh ...ROFLMAO. laugh ..."LOL".. laugh ......OH....... IT'S ALL OVER BUDDIE,THE HOOK HAS BEEN SET wink !YOU CAN THROW THE TOWEL IN ON WHATEVER ELSE YOU WERE COLLECTING,I HOPE YOUR BETTER HALF LIKES THE SMELL OF GAS! laugh laugh laugh....I HAVE TO STASH CASH "WEEKLY" JUST TO SUPPLY MY HABIT,AND HIDE IT FROM MY GAS ENEMY IN THE HOUSE!BUT SHE'LL GET OVER ,THEY ALWAYS DO!OHHHHH BY THE WAY,WELCOME TO OLD GAS!NEAT PUMP,NOW YA JUST NEED A TALL TOKE 39, NEXT TO YOUR SHORT TOKE! "IMAGINE THAT"LOL TAKE CARE!
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#183599 - Fri Apr 16 2010 07:34 PM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: DIESEL]
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Loc: GA
That is a model #49 computer
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#183605 - Fri Apr 16 2010 07:57 PM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: jkyocom]
swaz602 Offline
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Registered: Wed Apr 14 2010
Loc: Arizona, USA
Thanks jkyocom. Does that mean it was introduced in 1949? I think that my pump is 8-48, maybe it is not original to that pump.

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#183611 - Fri Apr 16 2010 08:18 PM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: swaz602]
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
Nozzles & VR's were changed out regularly as they wore out w/ usage.

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#183614 - Fri Apr 16 2010 08:36 PM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: Dick Bennett]
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Registered: Wed Apr 14 2010
Loc: Arizona, USA
Originally Posted By: Dick Bennett
Nozzles & VR's were changed out regularly as they wore out w/ usage.


Of course. I should have thought of that.

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#183617 - Fri Apr 16 2010 09:20 PM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: swaz602]
jkyocom Offline
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Registered: Fri Dec 15 2006
Loc: GA
I think Veeder Root introduced it in late 1948 sometime.
Every model crankback # seems to coincide w/ a specific year.
It would make sense for it to be manufactured in 48 and called a 49.
A 36 came out around 36
a 45 came out around 45 and a 49 came out around 49
I have seen no literature for the 32-33-34-35 models

This is the first model that came in the 1932 wayne 40.
In order for it to come out in 32 it had to be in production in 31. I have rebuilt almost 1000 computers and I have only seen about 5 of these


1932-1933 Wayne 40 were the only computing pumps w/ veeder root computers at that time.Prototypes? I have yet to find any other pumps that used them prior to 1934. After 34 most companies were using them.
By 36 almost all pump companies that were still in business were using them....by then they had expanded them to 12" and added price wheels & pointers.
They had a reliable computer,that the price was easy to change and became the standard for calculating gas purchases.
The crankback was made from 32-56 as far as I know.

.....I have two 49 computers rebuilt and in stock right now
_________________________
Veeder Root Rebuilds.....since 1987
Veeder Root Identification CD
Clock Repair
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#183625 - Fri Apr 16 2010 10:06 PM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: gasalleykid]
swaz602 Offline
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Registered: Wed Apr 14 2010
Loc: Arizona, USA
So, what color was the framework inside a Toke 39? Texaco red or primer red? What about the pipes and stuff behind the viewer glass? I've got all the rust cleaned off and it's ready for paint. I just wish the skins were so easy.

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#183634 - Sat Apr 17 2010 01:04 AM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: swaz602]
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
It's your pump & very few others will ever see the insides, paint it as you wish.
db
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#183635 - Sat Apr 17 2010 01:15 AM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: Dick Bennett]
bruzer75 Offline
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Registered: Fri Sep 22 2006
Loc: Grants Pass, OR, USA
Welcome aboard. I like 39's and if you have kids let them paint the insides. Nobody sees it and maybe it will get them interested in the hobby too.
Mike

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#183673 - Sat Apr 17 2010 09:37 AM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: swaz602]
DIESEL Offline
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Registered: Tue Nov 24 2009
Loc: TEXAS
Originally Posted By: swaz602
So, what color was the framework inside a Toke 39? Texaco red or primer red? What about the pipes and stuff behind the viewer glass? I've got all the rust cleaned off and it's ready for paint. I just wish the skins were so easy.
SWAZ I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH D.B ON THIS ONE, ALL THE TIME CONSUMING PARTS OF MY TOKE PROJECT WERE ALL THE DIFFERENT COLORS ,AND PAINT I TESTED, IT WAS MY FIRST PUMP,AND A VERY "VALUABLE" LESSON LEARNED,TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH ,,,BUT I WISH I WOULD HAVE STUCK TO PRIMER,WITH THE GUTS OF THAT PUMP,IT WOULD HAVE SAVED TONS OF "TIME" AND MONEY ,ANYHOW MINE WAS THAT SAME COLOR RED "RUSTY RED" V.R AND ALL,WHEN I DISCOVERED MINE! HERE ARE SOME PICS FOR YA! GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PUMP!


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BUYING ANYTHING EARLY HUMBLE OIL CO.
BUY SELL TRADE ORIGINAL GAS PUMP PARTS

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#183680 - Sat Apr 17 2010 10:10 AM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: DIESEL]
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
Inside of pump is a good place to use up left over paint from last project[s] & to hone your skills before doing outside panels.

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#183818 - Sun Apr 18 2010 11:16 AM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: Dick Bennett]
swaz602 Offline
Member

Registered: Wed Apr 14 2010
Loc: Arizona, USA
Thanks for the advice and the great pics. I like to get things as accurate as I can, plus having the inside nicely restored will add some interest to the piece. I only plan on doing one of these, so I want to make it nice.


Edited by swaz602 (Sun Apr 18 2010 11:16 AM)

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#183819 - Sun Apr 18 2010 11:21 AM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: jkyocom]
swaz602 Offline
Member

Registered: Wed Apr 14 2010
Loc: Arizona, USA
That is a beautifully resotred VR. I just got mine cleaned up, but it doesn't look nearly as nice as that one.

Originally Posted By: jkyocom
I think Veeder Root introduced it in late 1948 sometime.
Every model crankback # seems to coincide w/ a specific year.
It would make sense for it to be manufactured in 48 and called a 49.
A 36 came out around 36
a 45 came out around 45 and a 49 came out around 49
I have seen no literature for the 32-33-34-35 models

This is the first model that came in the 1932 wayne 40.
In order for it to come out in 32 it had to be in production in 31. I have rebuilt almost 1000 computers and I have only seen about 5 of these


1932-1933 Wayne 40 were the only computing pumps w/ veeder root computers at that time.Prototypes? I have yet to find any other pumps that used them prior to 1934. After 34 most companies were using them.
By 36 almost all pump companies that were still in business were using them....by then they had expanded them to 12" and added price wheels & pointers.
They had a reliable computer,that the price was easy to change and became the standard for calculating gas purchases.
The crankback was made from 32-56 as far as I know.

.....I have two 49 computers rebuilt and in stock right now

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#183825 - Sun Apr 18 2010 11:53 AM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: swaz602]
Dick Bennett Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
"I only plan on doing one of these," LOL
I can't count how many times I've heard or SAID that.
_________________________
Reproduction/Fantasy Cans
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p2/oldegaspump/AllCansMASTERTHUMBNAIL_zps4bfdbbc7.jpg
Rnd Can Re-lids


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#183830 - Sun Apr 18 2010 12:21 PM Re: Newbie with questions about Tokheim 39 [Re: Dick Bennett]
Roger Loupias Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Sun Feb 15 2009
Loc: Reno, Nevada
Dont forget about about always seeing your best friend at times slipping away. You know, those Ben Franklins.

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