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I think this is a reproduction sign. Ebay item # 250806541011. Your thoughts are needed and welcomed.
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If its a repop I'd get sucked in cuz it looks good to me...Grommets, patina....
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Well, unless they are making repops with the Veribrite name on them, I'd also say it's real.
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I agree with you flash...seller says No Returns...so you buy it; you keep it...mm
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Wow.... just like ebay #170625204702 these have to be phony
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My point exactly. Groments, Makers Name, Colors all seem different. REPO votes win!!
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CHECK FEEDBACK FIRST !! 0 feedback, became ebayer yesterday. Thats it for me! Do brand new ebayers find signs like that ?? My nonexpert opinion only !
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if you look closely the maker on this one eBay #170625204702 says baltimore enamel. The one this topic is about says veribribrite. wow is right.. Wow.... just like ebay #170625204702 these have to be phony
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Hey mm, doesn't that stamp Veribrite Signs mean anything ? Lots of sellers don't accept returns...maybe you just playing tricks on us old guys and scaring us off so you can buy it LOL !
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Hey Bill, we all started some time and somewhere,,,maybe it is just the start of some real nice stuff coming out ??
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...it's fake...you guys have GOT to learn your typefaces, and how to tell the diff between computer-set type and the old stuff...you make it too easy for the counterfeiters...and other hack artists...
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i spoke with the gentleman before i was to bid on sign i wanted more info on it looked suspicious to me due to size. the gentleman told me he bought the sign in NYC from a 78 year old gentleman that worked for veribrite signs and has a whole lot more signs from the company including another ticket office sign and also some of the common signs with the dog on it others beer oil gas. in my opinion it is a real sign the comparison between the recent sale of one is a different maker veribrite vs baltimore enamel which explains size difference and slight graphic difference, i agree with american garage it is a real sign that we havent seen often or at all patina grommets and if you want to reproduce a sign you try to stay to the exact measurements as the original to fool people. I do want to say this there are some signal pump plates on ebay now that are definately repro look into his feedback and you see he has sold the same signs over and over and the backsides have rust no porcelain covered in some paint.
would love to hear if iam right or wrong with my opinion.
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i checked the font and it matches several other veribrite signs that i have and have seen. what fonts are you comparing to.... iam not doubting you just wondering what your comparing font to.
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...OK - this took all of five minutes and a Google search...to make it easy, check out the dog in both pics...sorry for the small pic of the original, but that's all I could find online:
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...look at the K in TICKET...
...the G, E & U in GREYHOUND...
...the N in LINES...
...the layout on the fake is too perfect...
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Looking for better Gulf items: signs, globes, cans and paper - especially porcelain Gulf flanges, and Gulf A-38 & A-62 ad glass...
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top one is real !!???? Darker blue, font looks older... how did I do ??? lol ps I wrote this before I read the text. Dick would be soooo proud of me
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It's getting scary out there,these fakes are getting good.Every smallest detail has to be gone over.The best way,of course,is to hold in hand!
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...counterfeiters (and some hack artists who make dated repros) are lazy! They set type on a computer instead of recreating the original, hand-created type? Why? Because it's hard to work from a lo-res image, or they don't want to take the time...
...train your eyes, people...it would be great if we had more posts asking 'original or fake?', and less people worrying 'how much is this worth?'...it would damn sure make it harder for the counterfeiters to rip you off...
Looking for better Gulf items: signs, globes, cans and paper - especially porcelain Gulf flanges, and Gulf A-38 & A-62 ad glass...
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How do they dare to print another sign makers name on it?? Thats not reproduction, thats fraud! Of course if its foreign made, they could give a rip.
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Thanks gulfiend for your posts.
Looking for photos, etc from 60s era Shell-A-Rama gas station and Pal's Diner, Rt. 17 Mahwah, NJ & US or state highway signs, shields, route markers
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Well here's mine, I was going to bid on the one VCM was but something just didn't feel right about it, to perfect??
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Fake.......no doubt about...I can't even believe anyone thinks different...... that is the worst attempt of a stamped makers name i've ever seen on porcelain.....even TRay would be embarrassed of it.
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This new seller must have got scared off. The fake sign has been pulled off!
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Magneto, Let's see a picture of Minute Man sign.
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I see he as relisted the sign with a nice message to the experts. Mitch #250808564787
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...and either he's got a shill or a pigeon, it's got a bid already...
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Seller..SHOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN BUYING THIS SIGN, IT IS FOR SALE FOR THE PRICE LISTED. $599.00 That Statement tells me he knows/suspects it's a REPOP & is just trying to get money he paid for it back. An Original in that condition would be in the Thousands, not Hundreds & seller would have a Reserve.
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i want to change my opinion after further looking into it i cant say for sure it is real or reproduction, the owner told me he has over 1000 signs and if you own the sign being experienced and cant tell and giving me a story different 2X ?? i have found several other Veribrite greyhound same measurments out there identical to this one but again couldnt tell. it scares me enough i wouldnt want to buy it for 599. I also saw a Porcelain Oilzum Sidewalk sign that was done correct where if the owner hadnt told me and it wasnt for sale i would of paid. thats whats great about getting opinions from other collectors and dealers on Pri Petro Old gas, because i almost paid for this greyhound sign. I do love the real unquestionable signs though.
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Looks like he pulled it again. It didn't look like mine due to the fonts. My greyhound sign has "the" in script. There are a few versions i suppose but i couldn't say on his if it was real or fake. Good to have the info on this site.
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i want to change my opinion after further looking into it i cant say for sure it is real or reproduction, the owner told me he has over 1000 signs and if you own the sign being experienced and cant tell and giving me a story different 2X ?? i have found several other Veribrite greyhound same measurments out there identical to this one but again couldnt tell. it scares me enough i wouldnt want to buy it for 599. I also saw a Porcelain Oilzum Sidewalk sign that was done correct where if the owner hadnt told me and it wasnt for sale i would of paid. thats whats great about getting opinions from other collectors and dealers on Pri Petro Old gas, because i almost paid for this greyhound sign. I do love the real unquestionable signs though. I think you need a new keyboard or something.
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At least his text Isn't in Funky colors!
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not sure what you are talking about or something but if it was supposed to be humor or something i think we have different views of humor or something...
I think you need a new keyboard or something.[/quote]
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You guys should look at this link on the WEB! www.ripoffreport.com/directory/oldgas-com.aspxIt accuses Oldgas.com people of stuff!
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This needs it's own topic. Obviously someone was called out on a fake and didn't like or believe it. WA WA too freaking bad!
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...did it, just copied and pasted as a new topic under 'General Petroliana Discussion'...
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Funny... Not funny like a clown, funny strange. I've been a member of oldgas since 2002, but I rarley comment. I made a few comments about these bogus signs and a week later my name gets mentioned in that ridiculous websight. Seems pretty obvious who that anonomous accuser might be.
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I made a few comments under the lacie51 signs and remarks and my name is also there?
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I made a few comments under the lacie51 signs and remarks and my name is also there? Me too.
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I made several comments about him and I am not on the list , I feel left out
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I don't remember if I made any comments about him but I made the list. I like the part about how we are trying to corner the market. It's going to take awhile.... I've bought a grand total of two items this year, and only one of those was on ebay.
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Accusations by Nameless user names have NO MERIT & are not worth reading.
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True Dick! Not only that but who knows if they post there real names or cities. Someone didn't like getting called out did they. LOL
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well i did not know we had so many bad people on this site , funny how they knew the old gas folks but I do not know who they are.
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