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okay i have a pump in primer, and i really want to rust it, and then paint a cracked finish over that. can you do this and make it look natural? and i also dont want to really ruin the metal because it is pretty smooth right now. i;m assuming i could leave it outside for a short amount of time after sanding it and not get pitting? i know the american garage has a smithway or neptune pump that looks exactly how i want mine to look but yellow rather than blue. any tips would be appreciated

I don't think that you want to actually cause the metal to rust. Not quite sure that it would happen over primer anyway, unless you left it out quite a while. You should try painting it a color of rust. (Like the red primer) Paint on your "crackle coating" and then paint the yellow color you want. You should be pretty happy with the results.
Show photos of your process.
Don

Don, Post a pic of the one you did in Torrance, Ca.

I think its something real simple, like mixing Elmers Glue with oil based paint, then brushing it on. If you go the red primer route, you should be fine.

Not my area of expertise, but in the decorative arts, they do sell a finish for funiture that causes a crackle. Also, depending on the paint, you can add stuff, like fine sand, to give your piece a rough feel. Find a site or forum that specilizes in 'antiquing' funiture or Faux finish for walls/funiture.

If you find a product, check the label for the type of paint. For example, you can put oil based paint over acrylic, but not acrylic paint (which is what latex is) over oil based paint, or that layer would eventually sloth off. Check with the product manufaturer about compatability. Don't talk with a sales person, ask to speak to their technical people/department.

In my case it was to paint a carousel animal that was primed with house primer. Instead of using house paint latex as the group was asking the other artists to use, I wanted to use my artists acrylics (better quality paint and I was familiar with the hues for mixing exactly the colors I wanted) and needed to make sure I could use my product from a different co over theirs. It never hurts to double check, instead of facing removal and repainting.

The tech folks I have talked to in the past have been both scientists and artists who have used the product. If it's a big company, they might give you leads on what other things are out there that may work. I would also check on durability and if the product can be outside, and if not, what you need to do to protect the surface.

Take pictures on your project and post your results. Let us know what you used to get there...: )

Nicole

LH:

Not a hard project to do. As mentioned, 'crackle finish' is readily avaialble - it's the 'rust' that will take some time.

Get yourself a quart of 'red oxide' primer that is compatible with what ever top coat you are planning on using. Then using some cheap 1" paintbrushes, daub the unreduced primer on the areas where you want to simulate 'rust'. Let it dry and repeat as many times as necessary to build up some thickness.

Shoot your crackled topcoat and let it dry/cure. Now sand through the topcoat to expose the 'rust' bumps/smears/patina you created earlier. Re-topcoat with a flattened clear and you're all set to assemble and display.

If you want to add a bit more realism - use some 'Gel-stain' to add rust runs down the pump where the exposed 'rust' would have stained the paint over time.

Later . . .

Jim

RUST-OLEUM is the maker/ RUSH STRIPPER is the product. If you don't prime and paint within 24hrs. OR for naturally metal finish, rub oil back in to metal. Surface rust will begin over night. This seems to remove something in the metals and leaves it exposed, and would make your rust wishes speedey.

Yes Rust Stipper to promote rust! Trust me it works.

Spray bare metal w/ WEASEL PEE Motor Oil, guaranteed to Rust Before morning!

Aw Dick that's your answer for everything...LOL

he only wants surface rust,not a swiss cheese pump!!

I was kind of wondering what would happen if you took and rusted the pump to what ever degree you want then brushed on a very thin stain till you get the color effect you are looking for.
Would it work?

i have 2 extra horrible condition doors for the pump and i think im gonna do one real rust and the other with the red primer, and see which one looks how i want it. i gotta admit i think im partial to real rust because the red oxide primer at lowes doesnt look too orange. does anyone have photos of a pump theyve done in a similar way?

Here's a couple pictures of the pump DB is talking about.
Don


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