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WARNING - DEADBEAT EBAY SELLER "andrewtmajor" This is my RICHLUBE MOTOR OIL sign. Ebay item 120939539113. I had it listed on eBay about 1 1/2 years ago. Seller "andrewtmajor" not only stole my photos but also my description. I emailed "andrewtmajor" and offered $10,000 to end the auction. Hope my offer is accepted because I can't wait to get an address
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call Ebay 866-540-3229
and tell them!
if you've got your old listing number that would really help them....but they should be able to pull up your past history.
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Click on the link in the auction's page that says "Report Item" on the lower right.
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that does no good!
and you have to wade thru a thousand options and none of them are the reason that this needs to be reported.
calling them is the only way to get anything done on this!!!!!!
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"andrewtmajor" response: Hello, $10,000 would be fine. You got the deal! My PayPal email is xxxxxxxx@aol.com. Please respond via eBay messages after the payment is done so I will cancel the auction. Thanks!
As much as I wanted leave their email address for everyone to see. I'm not going to play at that low level.
My response: I'm on vacation in Florida this week. I can pay cash and take the sign with me. What is your address? I can meet you anytime after 5:00 PM. I have plans with the family until that time.
Waiting for the hook to catch...
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Good for you,but hope he or any friends of his aren't reading this..
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I doubt that he will give you an address to pick up the sign since he doesn't have it. What a jerk. I hope he gets caught.
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He is running now, the meet won't happen the address info won't happen. But it will be interesting to here the excuses why this can't happen. I heard some good ones,when I 1st figured out how to cruise ebay,I was shoping for 4wheeler. If it was to good to be true it wasn't. And boy did I hear some good ones,as I only made contact with those that was suppose to be in the area where I could go touch and feel,and hand them cash.
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In the meantime...there are people on Ebay bidding on the sign and are going to get scammed if you don't call Ebay!!!!
no he's not running....cuz its still listed...
I really don't think you've accomplished anything...IMO!
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I Think it would have been better if you stated you would immediately overnight him a Money Order as you didn't have enough in your Paypal account...You can always fall back to this if he starts to shy away.
Colin Latreille Always looking for Quality Canadian Oil & Gas & Ford Signs
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You can never make everyone happy... BTY- I work for a living and don't spend every minute on the computer.
I took the time to post while at work to protect Old Gas members, and also contacted eBay about the situation. The time is takes eBay to respond to an issue is out of my control.
I did save an Old Gas member a mistake as he sent me a PM to thank me! Apparently, some people do appreciate important collector information before it costs them $$!
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If everyone on Oldgas clicks on the "Report Item" maybe we can get them to end the listing. It's worth a try.
Click "Report Item" Click on "Listing Practices" Click on "Fraudulent listing activities" Click on "You suspect a listing is fraudulent"
Click on "Continue" Click on "Submit"
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Quess I wasn't clear, he might not contact you back, or he might make one more stab at explaining why what you want to do will not work. Thats where the wild stories come in . No he is not running,bad use of words. He might shy away.
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speaking from experience here....
when you call them you get results usually...
reporting an item rarely does anything...
I work for a living to btw....and don't spend all my time on computer....
I was just trying to be helpful.....FORGIVE ME...
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Steady guys...let's keep an even keel as we move forward.
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Hey Chevrolet SS, personally I appreciate your post and what you are trying to do. It's never going to stop if we don't at least try to.
Looking for anything JENNEY OIL OR GAS
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I sent him an email asking what his "Buy it now" price was---Heres his reply
Hello Kevin, I am really interested in Buy_It_Now, but I do not know how much to offer. Do you have a price that you would be comfortable with? Please let me know. Thanks.
- andrewtmajor
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"andrewtmajor" response: Hello, $10,000 would be fine. You got the deal! My PayPal email is xxxxxxxx@aol.com. Please respond via eBay messages after the payment is done so I will cancel the auction. Thanks!
As much as I wanted leave their email address for everyone to see. I'm not going to play at that low level.
My response: I'm on vacation in Florida this week. I can pay cash and take the sign with me. What is your address? I can meet you anytime after 5:00 PM. I have plans with the family until that time.
Waiting for the hook to catch... Latest response from "andrewtmajor": Hello, I'm in Texas. We moved recently. I forgot to update item location in my selling template on eBay. Shipping is free. Thanks My reply: Oh, that is not a problem. As you stated, FREE shipping anyway. I can immediately overnight you a Money Order as I don't have enough funds in my Paypal account to cover this large of purchase. Does that work for you? Please let me know ASAP! I still have time to get the Money Order sent today. I still see the listing is active. I thought you agreed to accept my $10K offer. Can you please explain. Thank you. I look forward to your response. I just got off the phone with eBay Customer Service. eBay told me they can only look at history from 60 days ago as they were trying to find my original listng. eBay said they would investigate and we will all have to wait and see what happens.
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And the stories begin, wonder what his next respone will be . Chevy SS THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORT AND THE HEADS UP!!
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A sincere THANK YOU to everyone. Your knid words and support is very much appreciated. It was all done to protect the investment of this great hobby. Compare the signs against the eBay listing (I really mean the towel color) LOL.
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Did any of you get this sign? A listing was ended early again...lol.
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I'm kinda confused about the towel color issue. All his pics are against a black towel, yet you've posted one on a yellow towel.
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Proof that that sign is mine not his. I'm the one who originally took the photos. I thought the sign looked better on the BLUE towel then the yellow. Sorry for the confusion.
Get this... seller just sent me a message. Ready to have some FUN! "Hello, I have cancelled the auction. Please send Money Order to: Barry Richardson 5532 18th Lubbock, TX 79416
Please send all Monopoly money, counterfeit Cashier Checks, Money Orders, etc. (someone on here has to have graphic design skills), letters, or whatever else you can think of.
Just a thought...I'm really seriously happy that no one got scammed from this bad situation.
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Can I get in trouble for knocking on his door?
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I would contact the Lubbock states attorney.
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HEre is a number you can reach him at, he was on the other line but would be off in 20 minutes: O'Connell J
5532 18th St Lubbock TX 79416 Lubbock TX 79416 806-795-2765
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Now he has 2 different names? Barry Richardson and o'Connell J?
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ChevySS, don't take things personally. I appreciate your time and effort to help other members out, but I also appreciate the other comments explaining another way to do it should I run across the same situation. I too have run into a dead end dealing with eBay years ago, and I have no doubt it's even worse now. The address is legit, but wouldn't it be great if we had a member near there get the sign for you
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To heck w/ Towel color, LOOK AT CHIPS & DISCOLORATIONS AROUND EDGE. NO 2 SIGNS WILL HAVE DEFECTS, SAME SIGN.
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Clint, lets leave a shoe print on his front door. lol
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This internet crime was reported to the Lubbock Police Department. The Sergent told me to contact our local Police Department, which I did. I had an officer pay me a visit tonight, and after sharing the details of the potential crime, I was commeneded on great detective work, and educated the Police officer a little on collecting petroliana. I hope the Police continue to investigate the situation. I was also informed that a crime had not been commited because no one was actually taken for any money. The officer called the number which Scott provided above, and was going to act like me (buyer), but the lady who answered the phone said Barry was not available, even though the tone of her voice changed when asked the question. The officer said he heard a male voice in the background trying to be quiet. I'm assuming they are looking out the windows right now waiting for the police to roll by... Good-Night!
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I am going to go to the library, find the magazine section and pull out every subscription card I can find. Then, fill in his name and address and check the "bill me later" box.
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Please remember you could get in trouble for harassing this person and you could get this site in trouble for aiding in it.
Jim "Oldgas" Potts Your host and moderator
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Lloyd--You're not quite catching the drift here! Ron still has the sign--there is someone on ebay using his old sale ad to try and sell a sign that is not in his possession and never was! FRAUD!!!
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Thanks Kevin but I have had the drift all along. This guy has really let his guard down, with the promise of the ten grand. Wouldn't surprise me if its a teenager who has mom and pop on the hot seat. I got it same as my dealings they never had product to sell,just send money and I will ship it to you. But with the furnish of address this has a new twist that I never got out of my crooks.
EDIT -OK Kevin thats oldgas member bppierce not getting the drift,scratching my head looking at what I posted and found what your reading. its all good.
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AAaahhh! My Faux pas--I saw "pierce" and right away my mind went to you! LOL
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I got the drift. I should have put quotations around sign so you wouldn't think I was dumb enough not get that the eBay seller is using chevySS's image to sell a sign he doesn't have. Maybe then you would have got the drift that all I was saying is that somebody could pay him (the eBay seller advertising a sign he doesn't have but is using chevySS's image) a visit to get the "sign".
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bppiere no disrespect toward you on this end. I hope they catch this guy,but the fact that police said no crime has been commited leaves me wondering. Think he is caught now he needs to be charged !
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With all due respect to everybody here. Anybody that thinks that our judicial system is going to charge/prosecute this person on any charges is naive.
I fully agree that a person should be charged for any crimes they commit, but that is not how it works. I wish it was.
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Sounds like a good time for a sting operation (Cue the Law and Order theme song) I am puzzled on the Police's opinion that a crime hasn't been committed. There is an attempt to defraud people and using someone else's picture is theft of intellectual property...Ok, these of themselves are not big crimes. But, if someone buys it and used paypal or sends a money order....now you have wire fraud and, I believe interstate issues....just saying. I should add I had paid for a sign on ebay several years ago and the gentleman didn't send it for several weeks. Tracked him down and found out where he worked. Called him and asked if he was the guy and he said no. (I had already discussed this with the local county attrorney and the local police in that state.) I apologized to the guy and said he may be getting a call from Detective So and so about a potential wire fraud from a guy with the same name as his. He thanked me for the heads up and two days later I recevied a USPS Express (Cost $25.00 to ship) for the sign. I had only paid for Priority mail. I received a call from the Detective and he said when he talked to the guy, who maintained he wasn't the same guy, he was one nervous individual. And also noticed he had several other oil and gas signs in his garage. Anyway...hope this works out for everyone.
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Nah, it's ok. Read it the next day and I may have been a little defensive last night
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Yeah--Like I've said before, its pretty easy to misinterpret the message that someone else is trying to convey, when doing it electronically! I'm as guilty as the next man and I try to keep from getting too excited over any of it.
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I was also informed that a crime had not been commited because no one was actually taken for any money. Not totally true. It would make the case stronger, but right now you have a conspiracy case.
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A friend and Old Gas member just called me to say that my listing and photos were "stolen" again. What the hell is wrong with this society? I'm asking for everyone's help to report this to eBay AGAIN. Thanks in advance for your help. Special thanks to Oilman514 for the heads up
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If its the round sign, I thought something was fishy about It when I saw it.
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I was informed by eBay the auction would be cancelled in the next 24 hours. I saved someone $632.00 Item: 200833934009
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Way to go Ron! If everyone had to post their picture with every sale ad on ebay--that would end a bunch of this c**p!
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I was informed by eBay the auction would be cancelled in the next 24 hours. Item: 200833934009 Ron, are you sure you didn't talk to a politician..
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I was informed by eBay the auction would be cancelled in the next 24 hours. Item: 200833934009 Ron, are you sure you didn't talk to a politician.. I must have...... Tell them what they WANT to hear and hope to secure Illinois votes. Buyer is going to get SCREWED!
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Ron, This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available..
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BEWARE...goodoldwarkid (22)
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