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Well i just got my first Lubester. Here are some pictures. It’s a Texaco and looks like it has a sticker on the front of it. I have a few questions too. 1. The handle turns one full turn in to direction and about one and a quarter turns the other way. Is that how it works? 2. I want to restore it so I want to remove the pump off the tank. How is that done? I see bolt heads inside the tank. Do I have to remove those to get the pump off the tank?
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Ok I am so jealous right now!
I am always looking for anything Texaco or Oklahoma oil and gas company's, also I am a newbie at seeking globes.
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HHhhmmm? Must be bolted from the inside? Just start taking bolts off and it will have to come off somehow! LOL
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I have a lubester that holds my oil it turns 11/2 turns. So that is correct
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thanks guys, but theres about a gallon and half of sluge inside of it.
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I think its a cool old lubester and should look really nice when you get done with it! Be sure to take pictures for us to see the work!
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Really nice lubester....... what size is it?
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I am friends with the local auto wrecker and clean my lubsters there. They have a large enclosed hot solvent pressure washer that they use for cleaning engines, transmissions and differentials. It is environmentally friendly as it recycles the solvent and filters the oil and grease.
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Thanks guys, but i couldn't help myself. i got the pump off the tank. I poured 10lbs of absorbent and vacuumed it out then degreased it. Going to spray it with rust inhibiter. How many parts does the pump break down to for restoring? So many coats of paint on this pump i have to blast it just to get a good at it. And tips or pictures will be of great help. didn't measure it but the dip stick says 20 inches.
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Dip Stick is measured in Gallons, not inches!
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I always thought that meant 20 inches of oil myself Dick! Are you sure?
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says inches on the dip stick, sorry.
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i beleive you, i did a double take. so why would it say inches on the dip stick?
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each inch = 1 gallon..
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Maybe they make the tank the exact size that every inch is a gallon!
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Like db and Randy said....
Remember this is an bulk Oil Dispenser. When refilling it from the bulk truck, hard to tell the driver to fill it with 20 inches of oil..... But to fill it with 20 gallons of oil......
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I am a stickler for calling things what they are. If a truck goes by and it is filled with Coke bottles, it is not a Coke truck, it was not made by Coke, they made soda, not trucks. The same as for this unit, it is not a Texaco, it is a OPACO, they made it under special order from Texaco (meaning Texaco paid extra to have the lid embossed with the Texaco logo).
So now, if you happen to be looking for parts (which it looks likes you are not beause this unit looks very complete) you should be asking for parts for a OPACO.
A couple of OPACO unit are shown in my Gas Pump Identification book, but none as generic are yours. I am sure I have info on your unit, but do not have time to look them up.
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Author, 1st & 2nd editions of Gas Pump ID book, 3rd edition is now available at www.gaspumpbible.comAir Meter ID book also available
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yes jack, that is true. Texaco didnt make them. they where made for Texaco. is this a commom unit, i never seen one with legs before. it is almost complete, i'm missing the screen if it had one. but why put inches on the dip stick if measure by gallons. doesnt make sence to me. is the pump difficult to break down? and how many parts does it break down into?
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Depends on how big a hammer you use.
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Just out of curiosity, why don't you measure some water into the tank and see if 1"= 1 gal. I would be interested to see.
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i was thinking the same thing. thats exactly what i'm going to do first thing tomorrow morning flatland.i got it all apart, took about an hr. now i need to de-grease and strip. nothing rusted, thick paint that i needed to scrap off to get things apart.the paint is real thick. looks like melted wax and is soft.you can see it on the tube on the left side of the picture.
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...that's a neat oil dispenser...it might be advisable to strip the paint carefully over the decal on the front, so you can see what it is before you remove it...you might be able to take a good hi-res photo and some careful measurements, and find an NOS decal, or have one made...
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I wish I got to my projects as quickly as you have this one. Keep us posted.
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yes, i was thinking the same Gulfiend. i really want to take the paint thats over the sticker off carefully so i can see that the original sticker was.
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I still don't understand why they would put inches on the dipstick if they meant gallons. I agree with Flatland and try the little experiment.
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Could it be if the dipstick broke or was lost, the owner of the dispenser could use a regular ruler or yard stick?
Seems like calibrating volume by a common inch measure is kinda smart...
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so did all the manufacturers of lubesters adhere to this rule of thumb? that if you make a lubester tank one inch of depth equals one gallon. and the theory that they used inches in case you lost the dip stick. then the dip stick would say gallons. and if you lost it you would know to use a stick or a 3 ft ruler and every inch is a gallon. this will bug me until i put a gallon of water in it tomorrow. i wont sleep to night.
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so did all the manufacturers of lubesters adhere to this rule of thumb? that if you make a lubester tank one inch of depth equals one gallon. and the theory that they used inches in case you lost the dip stick. If that was the case they would all be the same amount of square inches.-length x width -they arent
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Only Bowser made an item called a LUBE-STER & they Don't have a DIP STICK! 1st pic is adv. for foot operated, 2nd pic is one I own;
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Did most pump makers refer to their pumps as visibles? Or clockfaces? Or Roman Columns? Or "T" pumps? No.
Yet somehow these terms have become commonplace in our field of collectibles. Instead of giving someone the help they're asking for the esteemed veterans would rather argue about whether he's calling it the right thing or not.
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so did all the manufacturers of lubesters adhere to this rule of thumb? that if you make a lubester tank one inch of depth equals one gallon. and the theory that they used inches in case you lost the dip stick. then the dip stick would say gallons. and if you lost it you would know to use a stick or a 3 ft ruler and every inch is a gallon. this will bug me until i put a gallon of water in it tomorrow. i wont sleep to night. moonphone: in my experience, most product whether it be gas or oil was dispensed in a defined unit of measurement like a quart or gallon. Inventory however was usually measured in inches. If you had a square tank and you knew how many gallon capacity it was...say a 25 gallon tank...you just checked how many inches were left and you knew when to reorder. Over the years the size of bulk oil tanks became larger with manufacturers like Aro adding air pressure...but even then most of the garage owners I knew had a wooden measuring stick and they would 'stick' the tank to see how much product was left. Eventually gallon meters were installed on top of the tank so you could see how much product was left in gallons. Gasoline was the same way, the product in the tanks were measured in inches. We would have to 'stick' the tanks every night. You also have to take into account the shape of the tank. The larger storeage tanks were not square..but cylindrical. Once you determined how many inches were in the tank you looked at a chart that would show you how many gallons there were. Yours was a good question, got me thinking about how tightly controlled the dispensing of product was, but in reality inventory management wasn't nearly so. Hope that helps some.
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Ok, so i put two gallons of water into the tank. And considering i didn’t use a device calibrated by the NYS dept of weights and measures, it was pretty accurate. It was off by about a pint. So 2 inches means two gallons. My thinking is that there must have been a standard that you tank must size up with your dip stick that an inch is a gallon?
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All Oil Dispensers when new had tags on them informing the "new" owner how big the tanks were.... Of course in time and usage a number of tags were knocked off/destroyed. At times the gauge sticks were also misplaced and/or destroyed... As long as the owner/attendant/bulk driver had a general idea of how big the tank was... They could/would make their own gauge sticks.... (same as the gauge sticks for the gasoline bulk tanks)...
Everything worked out okay....
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My thinking is that there must have been a standard that you tank must size up with your dip stick that an inch is a gallon? No. You're over thinking the whole process.
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what are the dimensions of the tank itself? just the width and depth, not the height...
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actually i did find a tag on the inside of the tank. a little bit bigger then an index card. stick to the inside of the tank. it oil soaked so i cant make out what it says. i have is saved and to the side until i figure out what i can do with it. i don't want to wet it cause i don't want it to fall apart. what would be a quick way to get all of this thick paint off? paint remover? its so thick that i want to remove some before i sand blast. thinking of maybe just burning it off?
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i think we are also Ohio, company that made the tank might have had there own sticks made for there tanks. when the oil truck showed up, you just looked inside and figured out how much you needed by looking inside the tank. it wasn't rocket science.
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well now i know what brand i'm going with on the lubester. this is what i found after i carefull removed some paint from the sticker on the front. and the size of the tank is 16x19x24.
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here's what i found after removing paint. is this decal still being re-produced?
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Yes, it's commonly available as a reproduction decal. Also available in 12" porcelain signs. Referred to as the round Texaco Petroleum Products decal.
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thansk dave, but i cant seem to find the one with the black out lined "T".
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You can always fix that with a permanent black felt marker or pin striping.
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Moonphone, how are your other projects coming along?
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one of the parking meters is done. the bennett is done, the M+S 80 just needs the doors put on. ill post a pic of the 80.
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ok heres the lubester blasted, and powder coated. now its just re-assembly.
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thanks, the powder coater, coated the brass tag. how do i get it off? paint remover or wire wheel?
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Shame on you for not removing/or covering it.
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well here it is all back together. all i need are the decals.
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Certain paint removers will remove powder coated finishes. I would use a paint remover. Wire wheel will scuff brass as it is softer then the steel bristles on the wheel.
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looks great...
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