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I know that this could start some comical responses, but seriously, what does this phrase mean to you? I usually took it to mean "If you don't have a big pocket full of money, then don't inquire". Do you sellers use this phrase when selling a high end item, and/or do potential buyers (tire kickers) still inquire anyways? Just curious, what has your experience been? Sam

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I am always serious when looking at something, but what is serious to the seller? Maybe we think of it as two different things. Just a thought.

And YES "TIRE KICKERS" are everywhere and i hate that cause they waste my time. Put up some money or dont waste my time.


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If you ask a price and decide thats too much, does that make you a non serious tire kicker? I am always interested in buying more for my collection, but I am not interested in paying too much for something unless Ive just got to have it. And yes I have paid too much for some things, just like everyone else has at least once, but Im not made of money either. So if you pay too much for something, does that make you a serious buyer?Sometimes a serious buyer will make you a serious offer. If its not enough, tell him and tell him how far off he is, and then thank him for his interest. He might just pay up. You never know unless you ask.The price might be just right but do you pass on asking because you think you might not be taken seriously.Now, if you ask a price and then turn around and tell the guy your just pricing the one youve got at home,you might tick the guy off. To eliminate that, post a price and stick to your guns.

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Originally Posted By: mcguffeyd1


And YES "TIRE KICKERS" are everywhere and i hate that cause they waste my time. Put up some money or dont waste my time.


I don't think thats right?? I kinda like tire kickers because they are looking for "something" even if it isn't the item in question! If I have a good product at a good price, I'm always willing to take the time to "sell" my product to the potential buyer at whatever price I've determined and possibly talk about several other products that I may have for sale!
I believe that to be successful, you have to believe in what you're selling and take the time to explain those beliefs to the potential customer. Not all customers have the knowledge of the product that you do and need a few minutes of conversation about it to realize what it is that they are dealing on!
Of course there are those few individuals that will never buy anything and are permanently in "shopping mode". You have to take the time with these people too in order to cover all the bases and in the end, this approach will win out over the attitude that you don't need those blamed "tire kickers". JM2C--KEVIN


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I have to own up to being a tire kicker.At shows I ask a lot of prices, mostly to learn and get a feel. I'm only there with a couple of interest in mind,brand wise,to actually buy. I'm polite tell them its a nice item and thank them for they time.
Talking about high end advertised items advertised with serious
should only inquire,means if I'm not serious I'm not going to bother you.
I will say this if you want serious buyers without tire kickers--post a price.


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Originally Posted By: Loyd Pierce
I will say this if you want serious buyers without tire kickers--post a price.


Absolutely!!!!!!!

I will also say this...when I see sellers ask for "serious buyers" only with no price, that to me means it is ridiculously overpriced and I don't even bother to research further.

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Originally Posted By: petropumps
Originally Posted By: Loyd Pierce
I will say this if you want serious buyers without tire kickers--post a price.


Absolutely!!!!!!!

I will also say this...when I see sellers ask for "serious buyers" only with no price, that to me means it is ridiculously overpriced and I don't even bother to research further.


Those 2 statements cool

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That's like a State putting up Radar Enforced signs for Serious Speeders Only!
IF your ride is not capable of doing 150+ your not allowed to drive that section of highway!

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If you are taking up the mantle of "seller" you better also be willing to take up the mantle of "teacher" as well. If you don't want to take the time to potentially educate me, I'm not taking the time to open my wallet to you, because oyu are obviously considered only about one's self. "Serious inquiries" to me often means "Pay me XXXX, shut up, and go." It means you have no interest in talking or dealing.

Again, my opinion only.


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It is up to the Individual Seller whether they want to post a price or not.
This has been dragged thru the mud every few months. Let it go.

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I've always figured that it is up to the Seller, to determine how they WANT TO SELL THEIR ITEM(S)....

Hell, why not have the Membership determine what price someone can ask for THEIR ITEM(S)?

If someone doesn't place a price on an item, IMO they should expect serious and not so serious inquiries....

Hell, I've read more than a few replies, where Members have voiced their dissatisfaction and downright disbelief with some Members pricing...

Hard to believe, but true; On Oldgas lately, a Seller can get flack for not pricing items and for pricing items....

Oldgas has come along way since I started "lurking" on the site... Unfortunately, IMO, it has moved away from the Collector and towards neophytes looking to make a buck....

I've bought more than a couple of items on Oldgas and sold more than a couple.... But, had never been told that I now have to accept the mantle of "Teacher" if I place an item up For Sale....

That is an "concept" I will need to wrestle with....


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I would rather deal with a tire kicker than an arrogant seller.

Part of selling is providing service.....part of buying is expecting service.

I respect sellers right to not list a price....but, it makes no sense to me. I believe the price is as important as the description. Description and price are equally important to me when determining if I'm interested in a item. Price also helps me determine if you are a serious seller. I don't respond to ad's without prices. I don't have the patience or time to waste; making an inquiry to get a price that I feel should have been included in the listing.


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Bob, by "teacher" I just meant that, buying from you, I know I can ask a question or two, and expect a reasonable answer without you being cynical or mean spirited. As much as you have taught people without having anything to gain, I'm sure you'd provide me with as much info as you possibly could either way.

Because of this I'd gladly spend my money with you, as opposed to someone who roped themselves off asking for "serious inquiries only" and not wanting to be forthcoming with their information.

Look at any "salesman," whether it be cars, beds, credit cards, etc. etc. If you want to gain something in life, and do it well, you gotta be willing to put something in.

This is all on top of just plain kharma.


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Eddy, thank you for clarifying that for me.... I honestly was not understanding what you meant. I do now....


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If you can't be bothered to educate a potential buyer on why you are offering the best product to fit their needs/desires then don't expect to always get top dollar.

If you don't want top dollar for your item then list it cheap and sell it fast.

If you think you or your item is "too good" for this nonsense, keep your sale private or take your gem to auction where you don't have to sully yourself.

there's plenty of different ways to sell items, but if you want retail value you should plan to cater to everyone. That tire kicker may not buy your $4000 sign but they'll remember how you treated them when you are selling something they "have to have'

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This is getting too heavy for me to understand, I want to go back to collecting, period........


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Only saying post of price may deter tire kickers. Didn;t mean to redirect this topic.
Sell as you wish.


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Originally Posted By: KZ1000
This is getting too heavy for me to understand, I want to go back to collecting, period........


...I hear ya...


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In my opinion.....(LOL) If someone says serious buyers only, they should have a price on it. So if someone is asking $1000, and says "Serious offers" only, don't show up with a $500 offer. If there is no price and you offer what you think is a fair price, then I think the seller should be respectful and say that is too low...but then step up and say what they want for it. On the other hand....if someone says it is for sale and to make a serious offer and they don't have a price. You better go do some homework or just flat out ask them and hope to come to terms. I had an Oldgasser do that to me. I was trying to get a feel of what they wanted for it and they wouldn't say. iImade an offer that I thought was fair and they laughed at and essentially hung up. I bought one for the price I offered the Oldgasser on ebay the following week for about the same price. Being the crabby human I was that week, I sent him a pic.

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Well said.

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Originally Posted By: Alex
. Being the crabby human I was that week, I sent him a pic.


Atta boy!


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Originally Posted By: Bob Richards

If someone doesn't place a price on an item, IMO they should expect serious and not so serious inquiries....

Oldgas has come along way since I started "lurking" on the site... Unfortunately, IMO, it has moved away from the Collector and towards neophytes looking to make a buck....





Well said Bob... I also agree with KZ & Gulfiend...

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I always have thought it meant no window shoppers, tire kickers.

I believe if you do use that phrase in conjunction with something available to buy that a price should be indicated.




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