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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #404178
Sun Mar 24 2013 01:34 PM
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Again I need your help. I'm trying to determine which pumps these round indicators belong to. Can you help?

I have also included a picture from original G&B sales literature, which shows that early 176's had a round indicator. Can anyone confirm that indicator #4 is from an early 176?

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #404363
Mon Mar 25 2013 07:43 AM
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Correct Measure indicators.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #404525
Mon Mar 25 2013 07:56 PM
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Birmingham. Not a pump you will likely encounter and I couldn't find a real picture. This was the only pump advertised by the company.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #404668
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The Kew-Ideal pumps appear to have used etched Cylinders.

Did you ever notice the resemblance between the Kew-Ideal pump and the Springfield Pump. They both used etched cylinders, have the same type of access door, same bottom cylinder plate, the same unique body shape and were manufactured only 100 miles from each other and within one year of each other.

The bottom picture is a Springfield pump sporting the same Bonnet as the real photo of the Kew-Ideal(not the same as shown in the sales literature). I have also included a photo of my Springfield Cylinder which is different in design compared to the Kew-Ideal sales literature, however the sales literature doesn't always accurately reflect the final product.

Jack do you know if there was a connection?

Kew Ideal Collage.jpgKew Ideal COLLAGE 2.jpgSpringfield.jpgSpringfield Pump.jpg
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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #405097
Wed Mar 27 2013 11:11 AM
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Groetken Indicators.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #405239
Wed Mar 27 2013 07:22 PM
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Cast Indicators. If you can identify any of the indicators marked unknown or if you have cast indicators not shown, please let me know.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #405356
Thu Mar 28 2013 07:06 AM
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Southwest Pump.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #405393
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Thanx for all your hard work on this Tim. It's amazing what your doing!


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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #405544
Thu Mar 28 2013 07:57 PM
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Some examples of arrow shaped Indicators.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #405550
Thu Mar 28 2013 08:10 PM
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Toby Martinez just posted these indicators which were found in his Martin Schwartz Pump (Post #405373). These are the same as used in American pumps and is not known if they are original to the pump.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #405570
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Tim,
You asked about the possible connection between Kew-Ideal and Springfield. Which Springfield are you asking about?

Jack


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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Jack Sim] #405601
Fri Mar 29 2013 05:56 AM
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Any of the Springfield 200's. I posted a picture of a Springfield in post #404668. I should have labeled it. You used a picture of my Springfield in your first Book.

Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #405603
Fri Mar 29 2013 06:17 AM
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The Bennett 810 indicator is very similar to the Gilbert and Barker indicator. The rivets on the G&B indicator are within the square, the Bennetts are outside of the square. The top edge of the meniscus line slope on the Bennett 810 but on the G&B the top edge is parallel to the bottom edge.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #405764
Fri Mar 29 2013 06:16 PM
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Brown visible.

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Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr] #405803
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What I meant by which Springfield was the Illiniois or the Tennessee Springfield. The reason I asked is that Mackensie had something to do with the Illinois Springfield.

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