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#404178 - Sun Mar 24 2013 03:34 PM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Tim Rohr Offline
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Registered: Tue Sep 25 2001
Loc: Topeka, KS
Again I need your help. I'm trying to determine which pumps these round indicators belong to. Can you help?

I have also included a picture from original G&B sales literature, which shows that early 176's had a round indicator. Can anyone confirm that indicator #4 is from an early 176?


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#404363 - Mon Mar 25 2013 09:43 AM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Tim Rohr Offline
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Registered: Tue Sep 25 2001
Loc: Topeka, KS
Correct Measure indicators.


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#404525 - Mon Mar 25 2013 09:56 PM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Tim Rohr Offline
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Registered: Tue Sep 25 2001
Loc: Topeka, KS
Birmingham. Not a pump you will likely encounter and I couldn't find a real picture. This was the only pump advertised by the company.


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#404668 - Tue Mar 26 2013 12:11 PM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Tim Rohr Offline
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Registered: Tue Sep 25 2001
Loc: Topeka, KS
The Kew-Ideal pumps appear to have used etched Cylinders.

Did you ever notice the resemblance between the Kew-Ideal pump and the Springfield Pump. They both used etched cylinders, have the same type of access door, same bottom cylinder plate, the same unique body shape and were manufactured only 100 miles from each other and within one year of each other.

The bottom picture is a Springfield pump sporting the same Bonnet as the real photo of the Kew-Ideal(not the same as shown in the sales literature). I have also included a photo of my Springfield Cylinder which is different in design compared to the Kew-Ideal sales literature, however the sales literature doesn't always accurately reflect the final product.

Jack do you know if there was a connection?


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Kew Ideal COLLAGE 2.jpg

Springfield.jpg

Springfield Pump.jpg




Edited by Tim Rohr (Tue Mar 26 2013 01:41 PM)

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#405097 - Wed Mar 27 2013 01:11 PM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Tim Rohr Offline
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Registered: Tue Sep 25 2001
Loc: Topeka, KS
Groetken Indicators.


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#405239 - Wed Mar 27 2013 09:22 PM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Tim Rohr Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Tue Sep 25 2001
Loc: Topeka, KS
Cast Indicators. If you can identify any of the indicators marked unknown or if you have cast indicators not shown, please let me know.


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#405356 - Thu Mar 28 2013 09:06 AM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Tim Rohr Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Tue Sep 25 2001
Loc: Topeka, KS
Southwest Pump.


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#405393 - Thu Mar 28 2013 12:04 PM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
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Thanx for all your hard work on this Tim. It's amazing what your doing!
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#405544 - Thu Mar 28 2013 09:57 PM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Tim Rohr Offline
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Registered: Tue Sep 25 2001
Loc: Topeka, KS
Some examples of arrow shaped Indicators.


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#405550 - Thu Mar 28 2013 10:10 PM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Tim Rohr Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Tue Sep 25 2001
Loc: Topeka, KS
Toby Martinez just posted these indicators which were found in his Martin Schwartz Pump (Post #405373). These are the same as used in American pumps and is not known if they are original to the pump.


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#405570 - Fri Mar 29 2013 12:53 AM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Jack Sim Offline
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Registered: Fri Nov 10 2000
Loc: St. Louis, MO, USA
Tim,
You asked about the possible connection between Kew-Ideal and Springfield. Which Springfield are you asking about?

Jack
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#405601 - Fri Mar 29 2013 07:56 AM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Jack Sim]
Tim Rohr Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Tue Sep 25 2001
Loc: Topeka, KS
Any of the Springfield 200's. I posted a picture of a Springfield in post #404668. I should have labeled it. You used a picture of my Springfield in your first Book.

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#405603 - Fri Mar 29 2013 08:17 AM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Tim Rohr Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Tue Sep 25 2001
Loc: Topeka, KS
The Bennett 810 indicator is very similar to the Gilbert and Barker indicator. The rivets on the G&B indicator are within the square, the Bennetts are outside of the square. The top edge of the meniscus line slope on the Bennett 810 but on the G&B the top edge is parallel to the bottom edge.


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#405764 - Fri Mar 29 2013 08:16 PM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Tim Rohr Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Tue Sep 25 2001
Loc: Topeka, KS
Brown visible.


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#405803 - Fri Mar 29 2013 10:36 PM Re: Help identify Visible Gas Pump Gallon Markers [Re: Tim Rohr]
Jack Sim Offline
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Registered: Fri Nov 10 2000
Loc: St. Louis, MO, USA
What I meant by which Springfield was the Illiniois or the Tennessee Springfield. The reason I asked is that Mackensie had something to do with the Illinois Springfield.

Jack Sim
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Author, Gas Pump Identfication books 1st & 2nd Editions & Air Meter Identification books
We rebuild ECO air meters and sell parts.

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