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Interesting reaction pump dog. I never said I reported this sign, which I haven't. I leave these to the Texaco experts to say old or repop. As I have stated in the past I won't report a sign that I am not 100% sure of. BlackTee and others can make that call.

So here we go again .What is wrong with the sign ? Besides the fact that it looks new .This is exactly like the 15" sign that Redhotrelics had listed .Except for the date ,and the position of the mounting holes.Most people said Redhot's sign was real .Redhot's had no triangle in the A .Redhot's had the black outline going under the large green T .If Redhot's was authentic why is this one not just as authentic ? I am not saying it is real .I just want to know why it is not real.Can you please tell me ,because I sure don't know .Please state if you think it is fake ,and why you think it is fake.You always report ,but give no reason for your report.I will be glad to report it as soon as I know for sure that it is a fake.

I just went back and looked at this auction .The seller plainly says "AGE UNKNOWN" .So if this is a repop (and I think it is).Why is this auction any different than the one when you listed a reproduction item as "NOS" ? At least this seller is saying that they do not know the age .Do you say one thing ,but act differently ? In your bid to rid Ebay of fakes do you exclude yourself ,and your items ?

Can anybody tell me why I cannot read anything on the last two postings? Just blank screens.

what's wrong except " looks new, mounting holes, date? How many differences do you need? Maybe a video of the sign being made? Go back and read what BlackTee said about the 15" sign.

Is your reason for being here to attack me and keep the water as muddy as possible. There is no comparison in your statement. Did you even bother to look at the category the Texaco is listed in? Certainly not in the reproduction category. No, it's listed in original signs.

Here WE GO AGAIN.
I LIGHTENED my Monitor & can EASILY see the Bright Colors & Shinny Finish.
Since when are we expected to Believe the sellers Description?
IF this seller had stated it was "found in Grand Dads Barn", would you also believe THAT?

All I ever found in my gran dad barn was chickens and chicken poo. Lets give this barn find stuff a rest and tell the truth. Lets try here is a sign for sale and its not very old. If you do not know the age don't get mad when some one tells you.

Well, I'm not an expert, but I believe there were no 15 inch pump plates made and the 15 inch lubester signs had the attachment grommets in different positions. This is a reproduction and someone smarter than me will have to explain if it isn't, and I think we all know the answer.

I have a book called "Gas Station Memorbilia" by BJ Summers and Wayne Priddy .I know you guys probably never heard of BJ Summers ,but almost everyone who is involved in antiques has some of his guides .He clearly shows the 15" Texaco signs with both bolt patterns .I have ordered the book "A Tour with Texaco" but I have not received it yet .I don't know if it shows the 2 different bolt patterns or not .If anyone has a copy please tell me if it shows both patterns . I don't care about this sign in paticular (IMO it looks like a repop).What I want to know is did they ever make the 15" without the red triangle .Did they make it with the black underlining the green T .

DD I did not mean you reported to Ebay .I meant that you reported it to the members here .I notice that you never say the if you think the signs are repops or not .You said it was "pesky" ,but you did not say why .Lets just lay our cards on the table .We are both pretty sure that the sign is a repop ,but the seller did not say it was old .I know he (or she) violated Ebay rules by not listing it in the proper category ,but that goes on all the time on Ebay .There is a 15" Texaco sign that says "porcelain" in the heading ,but then says it is a Vinyl overlay in the description .It has been there for months- if not years .It is clearly in the wrong category but no one seems to care .I did report it to Ebay because it just bothered the heck out of me ,but nothing was done.

IMO if someone buys this sign thinking it is real they should have their head examined .I wear my fingers out reporting fakes.Ebay is probably sick of my reporting .I just feel like I need to concentrate on the ones who claim their signs are old or vintage .If someones buys a sign when the seller plainly says "age unknown" I figure they should know that they are probably getting a repop .

And on the Redhotrelics 15" Texaco .What was the verdict? I am still not sure .I went back to the discussion ,but I could not find what Blacktee said about the sign's authenticity .

Compare the GREEN of ebay sign & the Known Original in this link [2nd posting BY J.E.Radebaugh #339795];
www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=339795

Thank you Dick, that certainly looks obvious to me.

love how it states "age unknown" .... hmmm is it one week or one month .. lol

Seriously? Its listed in the
"Collectibles >Advertising>Merchandise & Memorabili>Signs>
Original>1930-69" There are lots of people that could be deceived by this listing. Including myself. Its listed by someone thats fishing for a sucker, by omitting facts. People get excited and think they have a real "find". Then they find out all too late the truth. Just by reading these threads I learn lots of stuff. Thanks for bringing this to our atention,DD.

Here is a guy with 7 porcelain fakes listed under oil and gas right now .Lastsingingcowboy- see item 121135557544 and click on "other items". How do you deal with this .It will take all day to report all of them .I reported a couple ,but I just don't have the time to report all of them .

Cowboys signs look like fakes/ repros to me also but I did not see where he claimed them to be originals?

anyone else notice they are both from bristol Va?
Is that why he is defending it so much?

I noticed the location too....

I have removed a couple of the posts from this thread. Its fine when factual information is presented, but when the thread becomes confrontational, we have to draw a line!

So here is a Texaco 15" sign that is either real or the best fake in the world .Ebay 200931817275 .It has the black outline under the green T .So is this one fake ,or was DD simply wrong?

Oh and by the way .I have been around a long long time in the collectibles business .

If you keep getting off topic and insist on being confrontational, this topic will have to be locked.

It my mind it is this simple as this .If you sell fakes-you sell fakes .It doe's not matter if it was made in the 70s or the 50s .A fake is a fake- period

Don't run for office unless you can explain the scars in your wrist & feet.
I've made plenty of mistakes & will continue to make a few more, so keep your Rocks Handy.

Selling a fake as NOS means you stole from the buyer-simple as that .Funny how preachers are usually the biggest sinners-ain't it

Well said, Dick.That is the most articulate thing I have ever read in your posts .Anyone who has been around has sold bought and sold a fake or two .But some people made a huge profit on the fake Hull and Roseville when it first hit the market on the West Coast .I can tell you a man who has one of the most successful auctions in the south .He was a furniture refinisher until he started selling the fake Roseville and Hull pottery.He would sell thousands of dollars worth at each auction ,until someone caught on .There was also a lady from the west coast who sold thousands upon thousands of fake Hull and Roseville pieces .

You are treading on thin ice. I don't sell Roseville or Hull and I have never owned a oil carrier with bottles so consequently have not sold one. Your accusations are all false. Members here are not stupid and can see right through you and Westerfield.