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Hey everyone! I have a ton of old oil cans. It's what I've started collecting. I was wondering how do you can tell the age of the can. I know some cans have dates but for instance I have three DuPont zerex cans with no date.
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welcome to Oldgas.. the earlier cans were first made in '33-'34 with a soldered seam. Then came the crimped seam cans followed by the composite cans..
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Thank you! I take it the cardboard cans are the cheapest ?
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Not always,depends on the brand as well as condition of the composite.
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Ah. I collect full cans is that a price changer or no?
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Ah. I collect full cans is that a price changer or no? some people like them full & some drain them- IMO that has little bearing on the value of the can. I don't drain them unless they are leaking, its true that a full can hitting the ground is going to have a little more damage than a empty one..
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Thank you! I take it the cardboard cans are the cheapest ? IMO - YES..
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All are Crimp closure. Early have crimp on inside & are soldered out side. Next was the Crimp inside w/ Solder in crimp to seal. Next was Outside Crimp w/ Thin Rubber in crimp to seal. Last was the welded Seam.
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^^ that helps a bunch! Thanks for all the info! I think the oddest can I have is a falcon oil can it's emptied but still sealed. Might be a fake i couldn't tell you. But thanks for the info. Least I can start to tell how old cans are now when I go to the swap meets haha.
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your falcon is real, there were a lot of those found without lids & somebody re-lidded yours, a nice can but there were too many found. were selling in the 10. 20. range..
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Sweet!! Glad to know. I got some stuff I can't find info on! Like wanda products. Thanks for the info!
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Thousands of Green FALCON qts were found un-filled & w/o lids. For awhile they almost couldn't give them away, but prices are on the rise now.
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Sweet I found about 6 of them dirt cheap at a antique store and I got a Allstate 10 gallon oil can with it and it's nice. Not a bad start to a collection. I just wanna make shure I don't buy re pops!
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Here's some info that is a little about dating cans and some extra info also - bet I picked up the info her on OLDGAS...
Oil can date'ing
In July 1926 the Society Of Automotive Engineers (S.A.E.) crankcase oil viscosity numbers were adopted. (ie. SAE 30) By late 1933 Winter oils were classified in accordance to their viscosities @ winter temperatures, these are marked without the SAE but with a 'W' . (ei. 20-W ) Multi -Grades were available by 1957 ( ei . SAE 10 W 30)
The second system of motor oil classifications was established for the petroleum industry by The American Petroleum Institute (API ).This system classifies oil by types according to the design and operating conditions of the engines in which the oil is to be used.The first types were REGULAR,PREMIUM and HEAVY DUTY.In 1952 API replaced these types with:
ML - light duty
MM - medium duty
MS - severe duty
DG - severe (diesel)
DS - extremely severe (diesel)
DM - severe(diesel) was added by 1957 ( DG now becomes NOT severe)
Some oils are designed for both gasoline and diesel service and may be identified "FOR SERVICE MS - DG (1958)
Summing up:: SAE 1926: SAE30, -40 etc. 1933: 20W (SAE winter oils) 1957: Multi grade oil start.
API ???? - 1952: Regular, Premium, Heavy Duty 1952: ML, MM, MS, DG, DS, 1957 : DM severe diesel, DG - NOT severe. 1958: MS-DG oil for both gas and diesel.
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I'm surprised someone isn't pointing out that a couple of books have been written about cans.
I believe they are still available.
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Author, 1st & 2nd editions of Gas Pump ID book, 3rd edition is now available at www.gaspumpbible.comAir Meter ID book also available
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I was wondering if there were any books out there about dates and stuff
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In my "Library"; besides the different specific Oil Company Collector's Guides.
I also have "American Oil Cans" Vol 1 by Tom and Susan Allen. "Collecting Oil Cans" and "More Oil Cans" both by W.Clark Miller and Sabra Sonewald...
Plus, A number of years worth of issues: Of PCM (Petroleum Collectibles Magazine), CTO (Check The Oil Magazine) and Tiger Hightest Magazine...
The Oil Can Guides do give a general idea of when a can was produced and used... The Magazines at times also give dates, but IMO, they offer more of a "general History" behind the Oil Company's that used the cans, which I find more enlightening...
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Ah!! I see I see. Are the magazines still made? Or no I've googled most the cans I have or the brand and I can't find much..
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Thank you! That will help me a bunch! I won't be such a newbie at cans anymore haha.
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Petroleum Collectibles Magazine [monthly=12] & Check The Oil [by-monthly=6]are still currently being published. Tiger Hightest Magazine, no. Check oldgas book store or amazon/ebay for printed books.
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falcon can.. ebay # 221312811684
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Anyone know when the falcon cans were made? Myne says 73 but idk if that's right
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