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#508445 Sat Jan 25 2014 09:05 PM
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It has always been my understanding patina was what developed on brass or copper after being exsposed to water. The Statue of Liberties green color is the perfect example I think everyone has seen. The green oxidation build up. I hear patina used alot to desrcibe rusting on signs and metal objects all the time. Is this just a way to "church up"rust or is their a difference? I would like to hear as many facts or opinions on this subject as possible.


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When something painted or that has a factory finish shows age or wear on that "factory" finish thats what I call patina.


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Brian--I believe the word "patina" has sort of evolved to mean a finish created by nature and the elements and not easily duplicated or impossible to duplicate by man. A finish that is highly desireable, as it compliments the age and use of the object applied to!


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It's a slang term used by pickers and flippers. Lately, it has evolved into a word used to describe beat up items. The use of the word "Patina" somehow magically adds value & desirability to these often rough items.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patina

Not as abused as OLD or COLLECTABLE on ebay.

KW is OLD PATENIA [Crusty, Rusty, Repaired & Re-married; a finish created by nature and the elements and not easily duplicated or impossible to duplicate by man.]

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I agree Kevin. Being from Kentucky. Patina is just the way most people pronounce Rick Patinos last name. So we might have to add that to the defeinition that has evolved as well. There was a good post on the Texaco Globe thread that explained alot as well.


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I think you have it right.

Patina is what happens to brass ,cooper.

Rust is just that rust. We have a saying here due to our humidity levels. Rust never sleeps.


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Im with dave on this subject, just another word to add value to an item.


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Patina vs rust.... rust people don't pay for, patina they do.. :;

Patina is supposed to add character, ageing, or help define the effect of a piece, whether one is talking about an artist applying a complimentary finish to a sculpture or mother nature using sunlight, other elements, and time to create results not easily duplicated.

Dealing with a lot of rusty/crusty signs, I find that non-wound-up collectors like to see some "honest" patina on a piece as proof of age, durability, and veracity.

Here's a good example of honest patina... applied lovingly by mother nature.






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IMO Patina is the effects of age on any object- by Mother nature and Father time. Doesnt matter if its rust, tarnish, verdigris, the darkening of a finish on furniture-whatever. It's not related to just ferous or non-ferous metals. Even pottery and artwork. One thing for sure, its not specifically just related to copper, brass or bronze. Damage by humans is another thing altogether.

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Natural aging

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I guess I am well Patined, or is it pickled

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Originally Posted By: Loyd Pierce
I think you have it right.

Patina is what happens to brass ,cooper.

Rust is just that rust. We have a saying here due to our humidity levels. Rust never sleeps.


And I thought Neil young was responsible for that expression!:-)

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The correct word for brass, copper or bronze turning green in verdigris. If you care to know the why's or how's, that can be looked up.

Verdigris is patina, which is the natural weathering process. That's not to say that patina is is limited to brass or copper. From my understanding, patina is the natural weathering process on anything, from your skin to metal to paint, etc.

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