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12"x18"

Excellent condition

.99 no reserve ends Sunday

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Item # 321498230341

$30 shipping? Might be why there not getting bids....12-15 tops to ship this sign from coast to coast with insurance! Just shipped a sign to Mn yesterday that was 32x12 and was $14.10 with insurance.

That's funny in so many ways.... These sellers wonder why no one bids. There's a reason why E-bay offers a shipping calculator so a buyer in Minnesota doesn't pay the same as the one in California.

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I do offer shipping discounts if a more local buyer requests it and assuming there is room to give a discount.

The shipping cost I charge my buyers covers all of my shipping expenses including, box, packing material, the 10% to ebay, and the actual cost of shipping + full insurance.

I think $30 is fair to anyone not in MN, WI, ND, SD, IA, or IL.

Those are the states I can ship to for less by using a local carrier called SPEEDEE DELIVERY.

Hope that clarifies.

eBay gives sellers a 10-20% discount when you print out your lable. It doesn't clarify anything except you over charging people for shipping and trying to cover your fees by doubling your shipping charges. Just not right in my book

I don't see it that way.
If a more local buyer requests a shipping discount I can almost always provide one for them. I don't ship USPS, only UPS, FedEx, and speedee unless a buyer requests it specifically. I flat rate shipping and there have been many times where it has been of much benefit to my buyer. I look at the TOTAL sale price.

Anytime I have bid on anything at any type of auction, I have always taken responsibility as well as the use of good common sense when I determine my highest bid (including item cost, and any buyers premium or shipping cost if applicable).

ok. This is my point I am trying to make; if it only cost you $15 to ship a pump plate to a seller, where is the other $15 dollars going?

if i paid $30 for that sign to be shipped, then I would just request an itemized bill of shipping costs... and if it wasnt provided or if it didnt add up then I would leave 1 of 5 stars on the detailed seller rating.

Ebay takes the DSR system pretty seriously!

My shipping policy is as follows.

All items are shipped at a flat rate cost as specified by gr8signfinds which covers shipping, packaging, materials, insurance, and crating if necessary or it's a large item shipping truck freight.

Items within UPS and Fed-Ex maximum size limits will ship UPS, Fed-Ex, or SPEEDEE(where available - ND, SD, MN, IA, WI, and IL).
Items within size limits ship within 1 business day with tracking and insurance.

Items over the maximum size get shipped in a fully enclosed wood crate with tracking and insurance via Truck Freight(various carriers depending on the buyer's location).
Over size items ship within 5 business days, most of the time sooner. Tracking and insurance included.

Items over $249 require signature for delivery.

Shipping costs are variable. I do not get any special discount through any of the carriers. The flat rate shipping cost is pretty close to what I pay to ship (all things considered).

If packaged correctly, this sign will easily cost me $20 to ship plus another $10 in box and materials. Boxes and packaging materials are not free. My flat rate shipping charge covers all costs and is to be considered as a shipping AND handling fee.

Again - if the buyer knows what they want to pay out the door and comes up with a final value that they are willing to pay, then where is YOUR hang up?

I am allowed by Ebay to charge whatever I need in shipping to cover my costs. Ebay auctions are considered binding contracts. When a bid is placed, the buyer acknowledges and approves the posted shipping cost / policy listed within the auction terms. When people ask for discounts because they are local, I honor them out of good will not because I have to. They bid knowing full well what the shipping cost is and what eBay's policies are before they bid and won the item.

There is a lot of value in my shipping because I use custom ordered packaging materials in bulk and spare no expense to get items packaged correctly and arrive safely. I find that when a buyer spends $1500 on a sign, they would prefer to spend a few extra bucks to know that it will be handled and packaged properly and arrive in a way that exceeded their expectations.

Let me ask you...

If I buy a item from YOU and you package the item in s $6 275# crush test double wall special order box, use $2 worth of heavy duty packing tape, $1 worth of stickers saying "DO NOT DROP" & "DO NOT BEND", plus pay $19.75 to UPS for the actual shipping cost, would you charge me $19.75? Thats not even taking into consideration that ebay hits all sellers a 10% fee on shipping charges on every item sold.

SO...

19.75+6.00+2.00+1.00 = $28.75

If you flat rate me at $30, you would net $27 which equals a loss of 1.75

I wouldn't think about it that hard if I were a buyer though.

I'd take the advertised shipping/handling fee into consideration when determining my final bid. And, I would be happy when it arrived fast, safe, and packaged in a way that exceeded my expectations.

Bryce.. 1 star is a little overkill.. u might add a why did you charge so much for shipping in the feedback comment and leave him 3 or 4 stars as the item did arrive safe and secure in a timely fashion. I agree with you guys overcharging for shipping is a killer.

Now read my explanation and then decide again if you still feel the same way. gr8signfinds is a business and it has to be treated like one. I do not over charge shipping to put more money in my pocket, I do it to COVER MY COSTS.

If your going to charge for all that why not tack a 12% buyers premium for ebay fees and $5 per half hour for packing to cover your total cost. It is a business right?

Because as I stated, I charge to cover costs, not to profit from shipping charges.

Could be the Southern in me, but if a man is going to spend hundreds/thousands of dollars with me I'll spare a box and a few feet of tape

Not hundreds of times over you won't - especially when you're selling something for very close to what you had initially paid for it.

bingo

Actually Yes I would.... I just had this conversation yesterday on another forum. First I am going to start by saying I have only been buying/selling/collecting for the past 5 years and been on oldgas for 3 years so this is just my opinion since I have started doing this. By no way, shape, or form am I stating I am an expert. But I feel like I started right before the market took off. The buyer/resellers that started in the past 2 years I believe is what is ruining the market. The ones who buy something and only expect to make 25-50 bucks off an item. Number 1 business rule if your not making at LEAST 25-30% profit your not doing something right. By complaining about selling something for about the same price you paid makes me think you are trying to make some off of shipping charges. Its not the buyers fault for you selling something for what you had in it. It's yours! They should not have to pay double the cost of shipping because you nearly broke even. I believe this is becoming more and more a problem esp. for collectors. Resellers paying nearly what an item is really worth and spending $800(for example) and only trying to make 50-100. IF you get 100 profit what is that 12.5%. Not smart business. I know it's getting harder and harder for dealers/resells/and collectors to find items but this stuff is still out there. Be wise when you spend your money. I hate to hear someone complain about not making any profit then charging the seller twice the amount for shipping. Again only person to blame is yourself!

You are completely off. I put the item up at .99 no reserve with $30 flat rate shipping which only covers my cost in no way profit. I was not complaining about anything just pointing out the FACTS. Buyers simply need to pay attention to additional costs (including shipping) and take it into consideration when determining their final bid. It's really very simple.

No, only person is off is the one charging $30 to ship a 3lb 20x14x4 packaged item. Fact is it would cost no more than 15 dollars to ship. I'm not trying to be hard, just honest. Like I said before, Shipped one yesterday that measured 32x12x4. 6lbs. $14.10 insured to MN from NC by Fedex.

I'm charging $30 to ship a package that costs me $31.75 total to ship. This has already been established and your statement above is incorrect for me and this sign. I do not have the same rates as you apparently and I need to cover my costs. I advise my buyers who ask about shipping cost to just take the amount into consideration when determining their highest bid. Very simple, very honest.

There is a simple fix to this problem....Right below the shipping choices on the seller page is "•Handling cost: US $ "

IMO, use that to be honest with your buyers.

Myself when I sell on E-bay I get all my boxes free from diferent locations and reuse them. My tape, packing slip envolopes and my time is paid for out of the profits of the items I sell.

...EXACTLY...

...there are plenty of shipping materials one can get for FREE...reuse old shipping material, and you're keeping it out of the landfill for a little longer...

...$1.00 worth of stickers? Write FRAGILE on the package with a Sharpie...

...I just shipped two Fire Chief signs to Australia, and it might have been $40?

I shipped a big, heavy, 4'x3' porcelain Opaline sign for like $25.....

I just did a quick lookup on UPS for shipping a 5 pound package from NY city to LA was 5LBS 32x16x6 was 20.16. would be less from minn since its about 1/3 way there. Shipping UPS ground.

LESS than $15 USPS PARCEL POST, 5 day Delivery Ca to NY, w/ Confirmation!

$31.75 total to ship, Overnight AIR?
B.S.

Anyone have a ebay Link to IGNORE THIS SELLER?

overcharging for shipping could effect final outcome price realized for a item as most figure that in on the total they want too invest in item...

I've never seen so much B.S. in 9 years on oldgas discussing shipping a 12" X 18" pump plate. I've sold probably 80 of those plates over the years. Never paid more than $16.00 + insurance for 6 pieces of cardboard cut at 16" X 22", 2" all the way around the sign, 3 deep on each side.

P.S. That sign ain't NO where near Excellent condition. : )))

If I buy a item from YOU and you package the item in s $6 275# crush test double wall special order box, use $2 worth of heavy duty packing tape, $1 worth of stickers saying "DO NOT DROP" & "DO NOT BEND", plus pay $19.75 to UPS for the actual shipping cost, would you charge me $19.75? Thats not even taking into consideration that eBay hits all sellers a 10% fee on shipping charges on every item sold.

SO...

19.75+6.00+2.00+1.00 = $28.75

If you flat rate me at $30, you would net $27 which equals a loss of 1.75

I wouldn't think about it that hard if I were a buyer though.

I'd take the advertised shipping/handling fee into consideration when determining my final bid. And, I would be happy when it arrived fast, safe, and packaged in a way that exceeded my expectations.

I think you better slow down on the tape and stickers. LMAO