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Well Jeff now you have not read and understood what Bryce said and missed my whole point. Yes you may ask questions so that you learn but please don't question the answer before you take a moment and figure out what he trying to tell you. Think about what he said so he doesn't have to say it again. The problem is everyone want's to know how to tell what's real and what isn't ASAP and that's not possible. I've been at this most of my life and I'm still asking and learning.....The best thing you can have in this hobby is the patience to listen and learn.
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There have been several of these signs around here with the important information missing. I just saw another one on Wed. at an auction. I thought it was a repro and stayed clear of it. It sold for $350. I am glad to know my gut feeling was right.
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The way you know that sign is reproduction is to go out and see the real thing. If you have been in it for a while, its easy to see. If you haven't you have to do a little more research. Buy some books and compare. Get some of the repo catalogues and see that they offer this sign for less than 30.00 shipped. Most of the time, the size will give it away immediately. Other times its harder. Ask more questions and be informed. I believe that same sign has been discussed here before.
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Maybe scalptrader bought it Wednesday at Shipshewana,he has been there before.. just a thought
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Is the fact this guys goes by the name scalptrader seem ironic. I mean, you couldn't make this stuff up if you tried. It's that good.
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My question is Where is scalptrader now, have not heard thank you for the information or anything on this.
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For one its a little too coincidental where the damage is along the bottom...just happens to be missing the important markings plus the size is a give away. I see these "signs" listed, but never follow the auctions. Just looked at completed auctions and found several of them. All are advertised as original, none advertised as new. All have damage in the corner. Even the top dog "NICEST ORIGINAL ON HERE NOW OR EVER"... $1,580.00
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Amazing how they can have damage all around the grommets, but the grommets look untouched!! C'mon...........
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Whoever the damage "artist" was on scalptrader's sign, didn't like feet... if the intent was to convey this was once used for target practice. To make an accurate fake, you need shots to either the head, chest or balls.
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Last Online | Display Name | Status Total Posts Location Occupation scalptrader (Member #12370) User Registered On: Sun Jan 30 2011 01:23 PM Last Online: Thu Sep 04 2014 08:48 AM 69 Chicago
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Here is a similar one on ebay "conveniently chipped" LOL Aged Hood REPO
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Tons of fake stuff in completed sales.
Looking for photos, etc from 60s era Shell-A-Rama gas station and Pal's Diner, Rt. 17 Mahwah, NJ & US or state highway signs, shields, route markers
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Wow $405 and $1580 for a $32 repop. E-bayer DOWNATTHEBUILDING should be in jail for fraud.
I am by no means an expert (nor do I claim to be), but for new guys, you can find clues sometimes. Like those before me said, do your homework, sometimes it's very easy to locate the same repop for sale on other websites (even check google images, and click on the image to see if it is a brand new sign from a repop dealer).
Also if they are on e-bay, look at all the other items the person has for sale. Do they have a lot? Do others items look fake? Guy has 10 signs for sale and the date is chipped off every one of them!!!
E-bayer DOWNATTHEBUILDING conveniently has close ups of nearly every part of the sign, except the most important corner (lower right). I also like how he puts it on an old rusty rig to try to validate it's age.
Also when you locate a couple of the same signs, like Bryce and Tom did above. Compare them. E-bayer MAYLA0624 and MTUMEY are both from Chattanooga, TN. They also both joined ebay one month apart in 2011. Same person???? Bought a bunch of Hood signs and selling beat up repops as originals under two different names????? I could be wrong, as their other items for sale are a little different from each other, but I would put a little money on it.
I'm not saying any one of these individual clues means it's fake but sometimes when you ad them up, it helps.
Again I could be wrong, but I am pessimistic. I think 75% of things on e-bay are fake... LOL. And as a joke, that my be the pipe lying on the floor in the background, used by MTUMEY to beat up his sign. LOL
Again, I'm not an expert, but if this helps somebody from getting ripped off, then that's a good thing.
-Steve B. (WTB: 48" Flying A button, 48" black/org Phillips 66, White Star, and Chevrolet Signs. Also looking for a Wayne 866. Send a PM. Thanks.)
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Sell me your Gilmore Oil Co. stuff...
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Wow $405 and $1580 for a $32 repop. $530... also has the bottom right corner conveniently chipped away. This is what the "real" fake sign bottom reads...
Sell me your Gilmore Oil Co. stuff...
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