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re liding cans #58537
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Is there somebody here that can make cans from flat ones? I just got a Dixie can on ebay that is flat but would like it to be made into a can. Is this easy to do and about how much?
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Re: re liding cans #58538
Wed Dec 07 2005 06:12 PM
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Dick Bennett re-lids cans and will probably be on here tonight. Ted

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Re: re liding cans #58539
Wed Dec 07 2005 06:58 PM
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Fred Stokes is the only one I know that will re-roll your can. I'm NOT good at it YET.
Thought I was ready to do 5qts. but failed on the last one that was sent to me.
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Re: re liding cans #58540
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Ted, I think what ihavegas is referring to is cans that have never been rolled. I Dick can do these I have a couple for him. Correct me if I am wrong ihavegas.


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Re: re liding cans #58541
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Dick we were typing at the same time (you faster). If you want the two above to practice on let me know.



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Re: re liding cans #58542
Wed Dec 07 2005 08:18 PM
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Fred Stoke has done a couple for me but his interest are elsewhere now and he won't deal with the mailing. Ted

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Re: re liding cans #58543
Wed Dec 07 2005 08:49 PM
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I can make you copies to sit on a shelf that are hard to tell from the originals EASIER than re/rolling an NEW/OLD can.

As with the 2 cans Scott posted, I don't have the flanging or seaming equipment. What I have is the LIDDER's [top/bottoms], & A FULL TIME JOB.
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Re: re liding cans #58544
Wed Dec 07 2005 11:21 PM
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ihavegas,
You bring up a good question...allot of flats out there need inflating! You are getting the same answers that I got when looking into this a two years ago (not on Oldgas).

I got-r-done by reverse "engineering". First I found someone who does the re-lidding, and bought both end lids. I needed the ends to measure the true inside diameter to calculate the flat length needed. Since mine was a crimped seam joint, I simply measured the joint lengths from another similar can that was missing a top. Scribed all the reference lines for bending on the backside of the flat. A friend of mine is a toymaker and had a small roller and brake for light sheet metal. We rolled the flat to the diameter needed and bent the opposing legs of the locking joint using the brake.Protect the finished side of the flat with masking tape prior to rolling. Hammered the joint tight with a hammer on a flat bar from inside the tube.

Mailed the can tube and ends to my guy who does the lid process.

Turned out good, but would never do it again. For the time I had into it I would have been better off spending 150.00 bucks for a 75.00 can. LOL

Good luck,
Kim

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Re: re liding cans #58545
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Interesting points that you made Superman... Thats where the you get the saying "More time than money"

I've also seen Dick Bennetts work on his "Look alike" cans.... Maybe we can talk him into opening up a store someday...

BTW, why not just display the flats, that should make for an interesting conversation piece.

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Re: re liding cans #58546
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Makes CENT$ to me Thunder !
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Re: re liding cans #58547
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I have taken many flats and rolled them into cans and put tops and bottoms on them with quite a bit of success. I am talking here about the flats that have never been rolled into a can...like the ones pictured above by quartcans. The ones that were made into cans and then split open and flattened present more of a challange. Usually what I see is that the the top and bottom rims have also been cut off. These could still be rolled into a can and relidded, but they will be close to a half inch shorter than what they should be...they just don't look right then.
I will post a few pics of cans that I have rolled tonight.

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Re: re liding cans #58548
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The pics quartcans showed are exactly it. This has never been rolled just old flat stock I guess. Thanks for the help guys...are we sure Fred won't do it any more...maybe I should just keep it flat
Thanks again!

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Here are a couple of pics of some cans that I have rolled from flats. The discoloration by the seems was already in the flat when I got it and not as a result of the rolling process. I have also done many of the exact same ones as pictured above. ihavegas if it just the one can that you want done, send it to me and I will make a can out of it for you...you just have to pay the shipping.

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I offer quart can re-lidding, can rolling, lid stamping, and dent removal.
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I offer quart can re-lidding, can rolling, lid stamping, and dent removal.
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I offer quart can re-lidding, can rolling, lid stamping, and dent removal.
Re: re liding cans #58553
Thu Dec 08 2005 06:41 PM
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Great job on the cans Kevin and those are some RARE puppies their. I remember them on ebay quite awhile back. Thanks for the pictures.

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Re: re liding cans #58554
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TeeTee,
I would love for you to make my flat's into cans....wait...that doesn't sound right...anyway, you know what I mean. As soon as it gets here I'll send it. Can you give me your address so I can send it? I just one it on ebay but hope to have it soon. Thanks so much!

Re: re liding cans #58555
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Might help if I could spell...I meant I Won it on ebay....blond moment

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