The placement of the socket holes isn't even close for the Ford sign. He obliterated a letter every time a hole goes through the sign. Pure junk. Sad part is, I tried to educate a dealer on why his sign was a repop this past summer, and he wanted no part of my points. He said something like "the price isn't getting any cheaper the more you knock it down". I was thinking "dude, that POS would not hang in my garage if you paid me to carry it away". I walked away before he got really angry, then it hit me that he isn't a collector, and couldn't care less if its legitimately old or not...he is a dealer, buying (in bulk) low, hoping to sell high. I tapped out of the porcelain sign biz about 5 years ago. I have moved on to other interests, til those start to be repopped!