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Info on Hood sign? #705352
Mon Feb 26 2018 04:50 PM
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I picked up this Hood sign recently from a reputable seller (not feebay) who found it several years ago still in the box wrapped in paper. At the time I bought it I noticed the makers mark but didn't look close enough to see the date. It was made by Scioto Signs in 1976, seven years after Hood closed their production plant in Watertown, Mass in 1969. It is a tin tacker, not the older stamped steel version that is self framing like a lot of their signs were. After seeing the date it was made I became skeptical about the sign but I have not seen another like it so if it was produced as a fantasy sign you would think there would be more floating around. If by some chance the Hood trademark name had been licensed to another manufacturer after closing it's doors I guess it is possible some of these newer signs were made for a ligit company selling tires with the Hood brand but I can't find any information to attest to that. Does anyone out there know anything about this sign? If it is a fantasy repro I don't want to keep it but I guess I am hoping by some miracle that it is real and can add it to the collection. I am not blaming the seller, he sold it to me in good faith and has insisted that he refund my money until we know for sure or I am satisfied with it. This is why I rarely buy signs.....Thanks, Gary

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Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: Rabbitman] #705356
Mon Feb 26 2018 05:03 PM
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My guess is it's a fantasy sign and as their website says " Scioto Signs is a custom screen-printer and fabricator, we are able to print and produce signage out of a large variety of substrates including… "


http://www.sciotosigns.com/Indoor/other_signs.asp


I would call the company and see if they can answer your question.

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Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: Rabbitman] #705368
Mon Feb 26 2018 08:32 PM
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Mike I did write to Scioti and asked if they could give me some info on it but to date haven't gotten a reply. In looking through their website they also make signs for a number of oem's so I guess it could have been either way. Thanks.

Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: Rabbitman] #705371
Mon Feb 26 2018 08:51 PM
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Im pretty sure I have a sign like that floating around. If I can dig it up, Ill check my date and get a picture.

Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: Rabbitman] #705393
Tue Feb 27 2018 11:19 AM
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Quite the interesting company, and in Ohio, U.S.A. I read about their capabilities on their website, and they can create metal signs that are embossed and with stamped self-framing, among all sorts of other things. John

Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: Jolly-John] #705490
Thu Mar 01 2018 07:04 AM
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heavy steel embossed with no makers mark. Im quite sure this is authentic piece

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Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: Rabbitman] #705523
Thu Mar 01 2018 08:40 PM
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Very interesting it has that green back. You would not think a reproduction would have that.


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Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: Rabbitman] #705552
Fri Mar 02 2018 08:08 AM
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I think Jim's sign with the green back illustrates an original, while Gary's appears to be a reproduction IMO.
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Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: DWSheffer] #705557
Fri Mar 02 2018 09:43 AM
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I agree with Darin. That green, streaked or mottled look on the back is pretty typical of a lot of original metal signs. Joe

Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: jecos] #705559
Fri Mar 02 2018 10:16 AM
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My sign is definitely original. It always felt to me like a late 50's 60s sign. Although I remember when the Bi-centennial was getting nearer,there was lots of red white and. Lie themed advertising around. Gary. Let's see a picture of the back of your sign. Scioto made quite a few re-issues (soda flanges,Pepsi caps,etc)but I didn't think they made repops for the collector market (they may have)way back in the 70s.

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Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: Rabbitman] #705565
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You have to be careful with Stout signs also. They made a lot of originals but they also made repops later on. You see a lot of people paying $2-300 on ebay for pepsi bottlecap signs just because they're marked Stout (which the sellers love to emphasize). The white painted back (among other things) should be a big red flag.

Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: Rabbitman] #705644
Sat Mar 03 2018 06:40 PM
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I have no doubt that your sign is the real deal Jim. I know that all of the others I have seen including another version I have are the stamped/embossed variety. However, my embossed one doesn't have a makers mark either. Here is the back of the one in question. It does have a green back, for whatever that is worth. It is a lot glossier than Jims but then it is a new sign. Also, I agree with Jim in thinking that the sign companies like Scioto weren't really churning out repops for the market in the 70's like a lot of them do now simply because it was before the internet and the demand there is now. I got a check this week for the refund on this one but I am leaning towards just hanging it up and keeping it. I gave a little too much for it but hey, it's not the first time I've done that and for sure won't be the last....Thanks for all the input, I appreciate it.

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Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: Rabbitman] #705653
Sat Mar 03 2018 08:55 PM
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Sign companies were definitely reproducing signs before the internet. For example, the Ande Rooney company was started around 1980 with its primary product being repops. I recall reading somewhere that one of the early target customers in the 1970s were restaurants that were looking to decorate with vintage style advertising. Of course that doesn't mean that Scioto had entered this market. Joe

Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: jecos] #705772
Mon Mar 05 2018 08:33 AM
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How long has Scioto been making signs? I am currently looking at buying a shell sign thats made by them. It is about the same size and shape as a quaker state tombstone sign and double sided. It is blue with an X 100 oil can on it and says Here! on it. ive never seen one befor and now am curious if its a fantasy piece or original. It has the look of a 50s sign but no date. i can try to get a pic

Re: Info on Hood sign? [Re: Rabbitman] #705784
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Here's a link that briefly describes the company history (founded in 1897):

http://sciotosigns.com/about.asp

Joe

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