*****, I had a bad feeling that would be the only option. I did some work as a contractor in the factory where my Dad worked in the 60's. As I was walking out the door, there was a box of porcelain ceiling shades, and I asked the maint super if I could grab a couple. He very loudly told me no, which was weird because he's a super guy. Then he slid past me and whispered "I'll meet you at your pickup in 5 minutes." He motored up with two of them in the back of his golf cart, and we squirreled them away in my truck. He explained there were cameras all over the place, and he wanted to keep us both out of trouble. I was hoping to kill 2 birds with one stone, and build both shade pairs, but I'm spinning my wheels. I go to the antique shows at Brimfield Mass a couple times a year, and I will have to start visiting the dealers that have architectural salvage. Maybe I will luck into what I need with them.