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dan64 #726608 Wed Mar 13 2019 06:48 PM
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Very good points Steve and Mark. I personally think Mark is right.

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dan64 #726636 Wed Mar 13 2019 07:47 PM
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I have heard the same as Mark about these possibly being fantasy pieces (I wasn’t sure if it was true, but Marks explanation above makes a ton of sense).

However, either way, I think marking them would still be the right thing to do - to prevent un-informed or new collectors from making the mistake of overpaying at an auction or somewhere else etc. etc.

Just my 2 cents
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I totally agree. If vintage it is awesome

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Originally Posted by Tankar
I always thought these were copied from a coca cola base then the lettering was added. In my opinion total fantasy.

...I agree completely...


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It is definitely a fantasy piece. I’ve had this one for about 15 years and until this post I had forgot I even had it. I remember years ago there was a post about these bases and Dick Bennet stated they were made in Mexico. If you are going to recast them, I would definitely put a date on them.

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...anyone notice the fonts used in the product/service words are mixed up?

...both serif AND sans serif fonts are used...pretty sure Texaco would have had something to say about that...and a reputable foundry 'back in the day' would have had compete cases of fonts, and wouldn't need to do this...

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I have a couple of these under Texaco signs and I remember they have a raised 1939 somewhere on the bottom.I also measured them at one time, diameter, and one was a little smaller than the first one I had. The first one I`ve had at least 15 years. My question is basically: what is the diameter of the one being coppied,original???...thanks Tom

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Originally Posted by gulfiend!
...anyone notice the fonts used in the product/service words are mixed up?

...both serif AND sans serif fonts are used...pretty sure Texaco would have had something to say about that...and a reputable foundry 'back in the day' would have had compete cases of fonts, and wouldn't need to do this...

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I will answere my own question on diameter....... Coca cola base is 22 even.....Texaco base #1 is 21 even....#2..is 20.75 inches.....I think Texacos are repos....because of the shrinkage in recast.

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Waited till all comments were herd, to prevent shinking of an already small base will have to start fresh with a new base corrected with flaws and dated, although dates will always be ground off or filled,will always happen ! new base will be clean and sent to a good caster. more suggestions?

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Harder to fill recessed letters. And if they are deep enough people will know where they were ground off.

However, it sounds like this base was a pure fantasy piece anyway.

Here's one a guy tried to sell me years ago for lots of money... And I didn't buy because I was certain it was a fantasy/repop piece. Glad I didn't buy it. Now I'm just mad at myself for not noticing the fonts, like Mark did.. LOL

I'll admit, the paint colors looked cool.

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...don't feel bad - I'm a graphic designer...I spend all day looking at fonts... crazy


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Mark if you was laying this out tell me why you wouldn't swap places with Batteries and Heater Hose,and drop Heater and add S to hose. Seems it would fit much better.
If your heater hose is new and everything other hose has a hole in it your in trouble.LOL!
I'm not going to beat it up it is what it is,I will beat up that red and white paint job . Looks like it needs to be displayed with a clown car! Too much going on for me, but you know what they say about opinions,


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I am interested in one also , what will they cost and how much for shipping thanks

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I think you should make`em I already have two but would be interested if they said "working girls" in any font, but script would be nice!.....I can`t wait.......Tom

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