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Hi everyone
I bought this pump and starting to investigate it parts I noticed a hole pattern for a pump plate. Seems to be a early model pump.
Looks like plate would be large. What is the most likely look of the face?
Thanks
Dave

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I'm guessing this style. But what is correct? Blue 200? or something else?
Dave

Yes, certainly that version pump plate is what fit the hole pattern...the originals have all the mounting studs to fit that pattern. As for which one would be correct, I have no idea as I'm not a Sunoco guy. Hopefully one of our resident Sunoco experts can help with that question.
Neat pump....I have one too but the computer and faces were switched over in the 70's for 4 digit readout, so it just doesn't have the same presence as an all original one.
Darin

Yes it is hard to find with two digit computers for sure. This one is tagged as last inspected in 1981. Shape is right , was thinking what lettering and if it would have numbers along with sunoco blue face.
Dave

I haven't yet removed the aluminum tape to expose the holes. But a quick search on the plate studs look like there is too many holes in my door from the plates I've found
Dave

As I peel back the decals more original stuff starts showing.
Dave

Here again, hopefully a Sunoco collector who knows the ins and outs of these plates will help, but they may have come with different numbers of studs......

Thank you . that is very helpful. I opened the holes to get measurements on what to look for. The pattern in your pictures looks the same as my pattern.
Dave

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Here is a post I found here on old gas that appears to answer my question. From carolinatraveller


Here is the story on the sign. In 1956 Sun Oil began experimenting with their Custom Blend pumps. The first group, found only in Florida, use a pump plate similar to the standard one in use at the time, the small Blue Sunoco diamond and the porcelain vertical stripes. Only difference was that this Blue Sunoco diamond had an extremely thick blue border. I have only ever seen one of these, and I have it in my collection. The second generation Custom Blend pump plate is the porcelain blue upper and lower section Blue Sunoco plate, with studs on the back. These were in common use by 1957-58 and used through about 1970. The older signs not immediately removed, but new Custom Blenders installed after about 1970 feature a decal of the then current logo, with the diagonal arrow, with only the word Sunoco, not blue Sunoco. These are the only pump plates ever used on Custom Blenders.
So what about the 200, 200X, and 190 plates? Well, while every Sunoco station was equipped with a Custom Blender pump by about 1958, the new blenders were not installed in every fueling position. Older pumps, usually the old M&S80 series pumps that had been in use since the late 1940s, were repurposed to sell only Sunoco's regular grade, which was Blue Sunoco 200. The older pumps that remained in use in the 1958-1965 or so era displayed the Blue Sunoco 200 plates, or the 200X for a temporary product promotion. The 190 plates, which were all tin as far as I have ever seen, were used in this same manner when Blue Sunoco 190 was introduced as a sub-regular grade, in 1961 I believe. Anyway, by 1965 or so most Sunoco stations had nothing but Custom Blender pumps, in every position, and the older pumps, along with the 200, 200X and 190 signs were no longer in use.
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And the picture of the pump is gold to help me with my pump!



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Just guessing here, but the computer is dated 1965 so I think it was changed to a five price pump , holes filled in lower doors and decal applied. Thoughts?
Dave

Better date picture

More part cleaning underway.

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These are not going to clean up. the red and blue are just too fragile and the most rusted panels on the pump.
Dave

More cleaning. The number wheels are cleaning up great.
Dave

Any one with blender plump info have a good picture of these instructions. They are located inside the plate under computer . This is the best I can get using flash to bring out the lettering. What is left is just a shadow of the lettering.
Thanks
Dave

Enjoyed making some progress today, computer is cleaning up great, I think.
Dave

Yes, looks really good. Does it still turn freely?
Darin

It does now ,very gummy gears. Took a lot of scrubbing and soaking. May not work as I found a hand written note inside the lid..
Dave

Any one know if the sight glass spinners should be colored? I would think if just metal it would be hard to see them. The plastic cover has a blue dot in them. Cant find a good picture of them.
Thank
Dave

Here comes the fun part ,cleaning and detailing the base parts. I cleaned it and now will start the disassembly to detail each part.
Dave

A few of the smaller details inside the pump base.
Dave

New reader panels came today, they look great.
Dave

Spinners done.
Dave

Complete tear down is done now.
Soaked a few pieces in Lacquer thinner to get the stink out.
Going over to paint frame and base today.
Dave

Not very exciting, but its progress..
Need to make a stamp for the 190/260 stamp yet.
Dave

Dave it's actually very exciting. Can't wait for the next installment!

The original style computer with the movable dial and the double site glass assm looks great! Don't install the site glass bezel on the right upside down when you put it back together! Brady

I noticed that too. Lol I think the plastic should have one yellow dot and one blue ,but not sure about that. And I need new plastic covers, these are sun cracked
Dave

Here is a few from last nights work.
Dave

A few more as it go's back together.
Dave

Inside is almost done. Need to paint the "this sale marker".
Panels shouldn't take long ,but getting the chrome work back may take a while.
Dave

Had to see how the covers looked...

That looks really nice! Great job!

Thanks , this has been a fun project. Cant wait to get some outer panels on it.
Dave

Was thinking of adding lights inside the spinners. But the manifold is hard to find and not sure I should drill a hole in it.
Undecided
Dave.

All outer panels are stripped and in epoxy primer. Time to fill dents and prep for paint.
Dave

Cleaned up a few pieces and painted the slider bar. Haven't gotten the courage yet to do the lettering....lol
Dave

Anyone have a recommendation one where to get the proper hose for my pump? Length is 13 feet.
Thanks
Dave

Moving along on the pump. Side panels in paint. The ink markings are not what I was looking for , so they may get redone.
Dave

Added the numbers inside the panels I found too.
Dave

Looking great so far!
Darin

This will likely be the last picture post for a while. I can do the lower doors and then have about a two month wait for chrome to come back from plater.
Hope everyone enjoyed it so far.
Dave

Great work! Thanks for sharing your progress. I know it's a lot of work in itself to capture everything. I'm doing mine when I finish it.. just being too lazy

The center dot is original and not centered. But they polished up well.
I used clear epoxy coating to fill the sun damage. Not perfect but I cant find any better.
Dave

One step closer....
Dave

Any updates to your pump project?

I have made some progress, but its been slow. Need a few pieces that are hard to find. I have a line on a second pump plate ,one glass ,and looking for a better stainless side panel.
Dave

Looking very nice, thanks for the update!
Darin

Added the side moldings this morning.

looking great!

Did you find Sunoco paint codes for that time period. The colors look spot on.

Not a specific code , I just color matched the best I could.
Dave

added the side stainless panel tonight. The list of parts need is getting smaller ,and harder to find... lol

Awesome lookin pump! Great job!

Received the other pump plate today! Been looking for a while for it.
DAVE

Got a complete pump to get the two remaining coins I needed. Getting down to one piece of original glass and its done.
Dave

I want to thank Old Gas and Bill JR for responding to my want ad for extra glass. I was able to get a complete pump that is the twin to my restored pump. This one is cleaning up so well I plan on leaving it as is. Now I have a matched pair. Very happy!
Dave

I have 4 blue Sunoco pump plates that are in good condition. I would part with two of them, if you still need any.

-Steve

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