#92484
Tue Aug 24 2004 04:40 PM
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Does anyone have an answer or good guess regarding the question in my opening post? I'd love to hear it!! Thanks,
Neal
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Please - NO offers to Buy or Sell in this forum category
Statements such as, "I'm thinking about selling this." are considered an offer to sell.
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#92485
Tue Aug 24 2004 05:14 PM
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I dont know the answer Neal so I will make up a fictional story.
After Wayne released its model 60 and everyone saw how absolutely stunning this pure work of art was, All the other pump Companies got together and pressured the Wayne pump Company to quickly release a Boxy plain looking pump. It just wasnt fair that this breathtaking art deco jewel get all the attention while all the other pump Companies were ignored. The Wayne Company knowing they had out done themselves with the model 60 and feeling cocky but somewhat bad for the other pump companies decided to put out the monolithic rectangle we know as the model 70. Everyone laughed and it was a big joke back then but as time passes memories fade and stuff becomes vintage the model 70 eventually became collectible...although no wheres near the desirability of the model 60.
The above story is just a load of Hoooey...I'm just being a goofball...LOL
------------------ Hubba the GAS GEEK , OIL FREAK of Shoreline WA
Hubba: GAS GEEK , OIL FREAK of Seattle WA
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#92486
Wed Aug 25 2004 07:04 PM
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LOL! gooood one Hubba,
Hey all those 70s posted so far look good & i think they are all 4 ad glass models so far!?
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#92487
Thu Aug 26 2004 06:33 PM
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Here are a couple of 70's
Drive with Care and Buy Sinclair!! I buy Sinclair globes, signs, cans, ect.
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#92488
Thu Aug 26 2004 08:05 PM
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Here is a picture and text that fellow oldgasser "Junior" sent; I got this pump (cut down wayne 70) from my uncle. He traded me for an old fridge I had. I took it all apart and sandblasted the small parts at work the rest went to a pro. I decided to go with JOHNSON but didn't know what colors to use. I've never seen a johnson pump and couldn't find one on the internet. So i bought a porcilean sign and matched the colors at an autobody. I didn't use black and orange cuz I didn't want it to look like a harley pump. So I went with orange and white. It turned out good and I am very happy with it. Thanks, Junior We appreciate the post Junior! Neal
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#92489
Fri Aug 27 2004 03:27 PM
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It looks like POTM is rolling along pretty good this month! An atta boy goes out to everyone that contributes to our showcase features. This Wayne 70 belongs to nice guy Bud Ellinghausen. Nice looking pump you have there Bud. Neal, is your email down? I haven't heard back from you on my last 3 emails. Keep up the great work guys! Bob
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#92490
Fri Aug 27 2004 04:49 PM
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Bob, I have been recieving and replying to your recent e-mails, the last being Wednesday the 25th. I have had no problem with my e-mails, feel free to call me if you want. Right now I am going to send you a test e-mail to see if you get it. Thanks and take care,
Neal
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#92491
Fri Aug 27 2004 07:22 PM
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Neal, Nope, still not getting your emails. Bob
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#92492
Wed Sep 01 2004 01:25 AM
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Hi Neil here are my three Wayne 70's thanks for the post Richard (gatorgaspumps)
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#92493
Wed Sep 01 2004 09:59 PM
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Hey, wondering if you could post these pics for me the first pic is of a couple wayne 70's I picked up recently and the others are my goodies from the front range bash in colorado thanks dave vintage-motorworks Dave, THANKS for sharing the neat pictures! Neal [This message has been edited by gas pump freak (edited 09-02-2004).]
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#92494
Sat Sep 04 2004 06:58 PM
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I apologize to all of you for not getting this posted sooner, but I have I been in Mobile, AL for almost two weeks. My brother was quite sick, and passed away Wednesday.
Wayne introduced the Model 70 this way: A NEW, DISTINCTIVE WAYNE COMPUTER. The pleasing simplicity of this design permits beautiful color combinations. Illustrated signs on four sides provide space for brand identification and merchandising slogans. Sturdy Wayne structural steel corner post construction with steel floors of cross-members, giving the same rigidity as the famous Model 60.
An interesting sentence from the description for the Wayne 71 Displaymeter was: "Merchandise profits of only 37 cents a day pay for the pump - the gasoline profits are free."
Wayne had revolutionized the gas pump manufacturing with the introduction of the Model 40 in 1932. During the next two years pump companies scrambled to design their own computers and finally settling on paying Wayne a royalty to use the Veeder-Root. It was the "Art Deco" period and Wayne brought out their 60 a year before Tokheim introduced the 36 giving them a one year jump on their cross town competitor. By the end of 1935 is was time to design a pump that would replace the 60. Times were changing and a pump with a plain design was in. In 1937 Wayne introduced the Model 70. Wayne called it "The World's Most Beautiful Pump." Around 1937 Wayne started to advertise "Honest Measure" heavily. This slogan and a picture of the German Shepherd dog appeared on the Model 70 series pumps as both a decal and a emblem that attached to the side of the pump. A note should be made about the Model 71 and the Model 72. Probably more Model 71 "Displaymeter" were purchased by Firestone than any other oil company. Firestone was a large user of display pump, purchasing both the 71 and Model 60 display versions. While some believe the Model 72 was an airport pump and probably some did wind up being used at airports, the pump design patent was held by Firestone, not Wayne. The only one I have actually seen had Firestone ad glass in it. The pump could have gone anywhere after Firestone was finished using them. The 72 was introduced in 1949 and was only made through 1951.
A couple more things. I cannot find any evidence of Wayne making a "short 70." It is not mentioned in any of their literature. I have two possibilities, some people mistakenly think the Model 100-B is a short 70, and the other possibility is that some tall 70s were actually shortened. But if you look at the layout of the inside of the pump, this would require quite a bit of work. The other thing is from my own observation is that Wayne may have used different size bases. I had two 70s next to each other and one was over 2" taller than the other. These are things the pump companies did without mentioning them in their literature.
Now for the hard facts:
Run lasted from 1937 to somewhere between 1954 and 1960. The reason I don't know the exact date is in the Blue Book, Wayne combined the serial numbers of the Model 70s with those of the Model 80s.
1.70. Sight glass just above face, four-ad glass panels. 1937-1960. 73" tall, 507 lbs. Probably more of these were made than other version of the 70. Why Wayne decided to move the ad glass panel to below the sight glass on their 1948 model will probably remain a mystery. 2.70. "Extenda-hose" on cable, shown with four-ad glass panels. Extenda-Hose gave a 14 ft. reach. 1937. 73" tall, 507 lbs. 3.876. Non-computing pump with four-ad glass panels. 1937-1947. 73" tall, 467 lbs. 4.71. Display case pump with ad glass panels on sides only. 1938-unk. 74.5" tall, 600 lbs. 5.585 & 586 pump lights for the 70. 1938 6.876-A. 1938 only. 7.876-C. 1938-1939. 8.876-D. Non-computing pump, 70C and 577 are same. 1940 9.577-R and 577-RC. Remote and non-computing pump with outside sight gauge and no ad panels. 1946. 10.70. Sight gauge moved to top of pump with ad panels below. 1948 11.72. Low pump for Firestone. 1949-1951
[This message has been edited by Jack Sim (edited 09-04-2004).]
Author, 1st & 2nd editions of Gas Pump ID book, 3rd edition is now available at www.gaspumpbible.comAir Meter ID book also available
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#92495
Sat Sep 04 2004 08:54 PM
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Jack, I've very sorry to hear of your loss. Your post with the info on the Wayne 70 was above and beyond the call under these circumstances. Bob
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#92496
Sun Sep 05 2004 07:01 PM
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Jack--sorry to hear of your loss.Our prayers go out to you and your family.
------------------ JERRY
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#92497
Sun Sep 05 2004 07:17 PM
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Jack, I am very sorry to hear of your loss! I can assure you that this will be in my thoughts and prayers. Please let me know if I can help in any way. Sincerely,
Neal Dunn
PS- thanks for the great post on the 70.
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Sun Sep 05 2004 10:09 PM
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Jack I would like to offer you my condolences, hope you are doing well under the circumstances. ......................Frank
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