Primarily Petroliana Shop Talk Forums Shop Talk Petroliana Forums General Petroliana Discussion Complete Newb with some questions

ROFL! I know what you mean. I'm from the south, so at least I understand what you're saying most of the time. My poor wife is a Yankee, and completely lost.She also stands out when she talks, whereas I can almost blend in

PS, I'm only about 45 minutes south of Athens, near Sandersville.

I am 1 hr South of ROME !!!! LOL

The Yocom side is from PA.
ON a trip there once , my brother, his wife and I stopped at a gas station to fill up.
The attendant asked my brother Y'OIL OK?....my brother responded with "yeah we're fine".....I broke out laughing and said " LEE...He wanted to know if your oil is OK"....Lee thought he said
Y'All OK.....LOL
the look on the attendants face was priceless !!!! LOL

Capt Quirk,

I am also new to Old Gas. What you're proposing to do sounds very interesting. Please keep us posted on your progress.

Like many other grandiose plans, it will likely fall short of the big dream. But, I'll have a gas station with a bay and antique pump on property, with home brewed gas.

CQ In Washington State if you have an outside tank it must be in a containment area that can hold 110% of the largest tanks capacity if it has a roof over it, or 125% if there is no roof to allow for precipitation.

What are the chances of getting around some of the pumping and metering problems by using a Visible pump instead of a Computer pump.
Seems like there is some place in Idaho that is still using Visible pumps to sell to the public.

HUskyBob, I like the visibles, but they are pricey, and I can only imagine parts getting harder to find. Plus, I really don't understand how they work, I've only seen them in pictures

As far as pumping, I assume you are talking about the actual internal pump mechanical parts I mentioned before? Talking with the tank vendor yesterday, he mentioned using a fuel pump on the tank that would push fuel though the the meter inside the pump, turning it into a dispenser that will measure. Did that make sense to you? I'm a bit fuzzy on the terms and whatnot, so I apologize for being confusing.

son of Ethyl-- Welcome aboard Old Gas! Theres several of us from North Dakota on this site. Look foreward to meeting you one day! I'm in Devils Lake!

We have an ethanol plant here... 2 as a matter in fact and i know the "waste" is pure protean and goes to a local grain place which then ships it some where. I think i got that right. LOL

he is talking about a submerged unit inside the tank
and a meter and computer inside the cabinet,,,,that classifies the unit/cabinet as a dispenser NOT a pump.
motor & pump are in the tank.$$$$$$$$$

Waste is a lot more than just protein. It takes a ton of water to make ethanol and all of that water has to go somewhere besides the ground, per OSHA. The white part of the corn is the part of the corn that you are after and the rest is pretty much waste. There is a small bit that you will gain product from but not much. Where I currently work, we go through anywhere between 400,000 and 500,000 bushel a day. We make everything from syrup to dried goods, not to mention pharmaceutical needs. Take for instance, the sweetener that you would put in a glass of tea or corn syrup for beer, soda, or candy. (Not to mention everything else that Americans eat) All of our waste water gets reused in the process and evaporated. What amount doesn’t get reused goes to our own waste water treatment plant to be reprocessed and used as clean water, which is a massive amount. Not to mention that you final product has to be starch negative and corn is full of starch. The hull of the corn and protein does go to our feed plant where we mix it with several filter compounds, waste water, and syrup. This is sold as a wet feed and truck pick it up daily. I was also wondering how you plan on filtering this and removing the color from your final product. I have tried several times to make shine on my stove top and have succeeded several times. But tell you that along with this looks a lot easier on paper than it really is. I wish you all the best luck.

CHAD T

I should tell you I have failed more than I have succeeded when making shine, for myself ofcourse and not for resale to anyone. Also it take 21 lbs. of corn to produce 1 gallon of ethanol and three times as much water. We get all of our corn via barge or truck and it all has been dried to the proper moisture content and has no cobs.

Chadrock, the figures I have been able to come up with are 130 bushels per acre, 56lbs per bushel. Since we'll have livestock, some of that will go into feed. The rest of the details, I'm still working on it