Primarily Petroliana Shop Talk Forums Shop Talk Petroliana Forums General Petroliana Discussion How warm is the gas you have been getting?

Well Joe, with you being a person, who rebuilds Veeder Root computers, I would think that you would be fully aware of the organizations that checks/regulates the standards of weights and measures. They insure that produsct sold, by either weight or volume, are measured and sold accuratly. Correct? So lets just speculate your suspicion of "Fuel Warming". Though its been a while since I've worked at a service station, I seem to remember that our storage tank was 10,000 gallons. So I would imagine, that it would take a rather large heater to warm up that much fuel. Now one of my trucks, does have a fuel warmer, so even though the tank is substantially smaller, it can be done. So, like my fuel heater, there would be a large, water pipe installed into the storage tank, that would circulate hot water, thereby, warming the fuel. So large holes would be needed, to install, many feet of pipe, into the tanks. Both into and out of the tank. Probably not a simple do-it-yourself kind of job. But there is another possibility.... A flash heater. If installed, at the pump, the fuel wouldnt have a chance to cool down before being dispensed. Two things to keep in mind with this.... Flames inside a gas pump!!!!! And the possibility of the fuel getting too hot, causing the pump to vapor lock. (I bet a lot of racers here remember the coffee cans, full of ice, that had a copper fuel line in it, to keep our cars from vapor locking at the track. But I digress.) Maybe the fuel is pumped into the trailer, warmed up, then pumped back out to the pumps. There's that pipe issue again. I think that the possibility of my science teacher were right, might be worth looking at again. Temps are higher in the summer time because the days are longer. This allows the sun to warm up the planet and everything on it. Thats why it warmer in the city, than it is in the country... More stuff to hold the heat. Even though the tanks are underground, they are not deep enough to not be subject to the warming tendency of that great big fire ball in the sky. To confirm this, check with a building department, that governs a teperate area. They will have a standard called a "Frost Leve" thats how much of Mother Earth, that freezes in the winter. water freezes a 32 degrees farenheit. Dirt, with its moisture content, also freezes at that temp. Thats why foundations are to be built BELOW that level. Heat, or lack of, does have the ability to transmit through solid objects. Your coffe cup warms up when you fill it up. Right? I think that my second post is what you are experiencing here. If not, please contact the weights and measures people. I'm sure that they'd love to hear about this...... BTW. If it is a fuel heater, please ask how much one of those heater units cost? I'll need one in the winter time to thaw out my frozen loads.