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I think you have been more than fair. I would tell him he has 30 days to come up with the three hundred. After that it is no longer for sale. Its some what a gamble be cause he could try and get the police to make you give it back. I would take that gamble and loose three hundred before I let him rip me out of 150, especially since you have been more than coopertive. He looks to be trying to take advantage of you. If it were mine I would be glad to be able to pay you for it, espacially this day and age hes lucky it was seen again, most things are not. Just my oppinion but youre rite it sucks getting the shaft for trying to help.
Brandon

I have a friend who bought a trailer at auction, with no title......went to the DMV and got tags and new title for a homebuilt trailer. He then discarded the reciept from the auction co. A year later......police came to his home and confiscated his trailer saying it was stolen. They then charged him with having stolen goods. He had to get a lawyer, go to court etc. In court he explained his case. Judge dismissed him but he was out the trailer and the money he had spent for it......along with lawyers fees, time and grief. True story....Good luck.

JJ Talk to the Trooper on Tuesday and get the story straight as to what your rights are and explain to him whats happined , the troopers will usually Help in any way , they can add a little presure to this guy if they feel that your holding up your end of the bargain, sometimes its just the right thing said by an Officer of the law, Michigan State Troopers carry a lot of clout

Ask the guy to describe it, if he does not describe the damaged body..That changes things..

Also that does not sound like the same one.. maybe seller had 2??

Not suggesting to try to get out of this, but he should remember the condition his globe body was in..

Obviously what you are holding now looks different than what was stolen..

My residence was broken into a while back and a old peddle car and some cash was stolen.I got a tip that it was at an antique store for sale.I dug a little deeper and found out who had sold it to them with no surprise.I contacted my local police and told them to no revail,telling me that these people had bought the item in good faith of it not being stoled (25 for a 900 item)Ya right,and unless I had proof it was mine then I was out of luck.Antiques are hard to get back unless you write your name across them,period.If you bought the item in good faith and he cant describe it with pictures or someway else,and you paid market value,then he is going to have a hell of a time getting it back.If it was my familys,then I would pay anything for it if I wanted it enough badly and stop bothering you.My 2 cents!

Jarvis,

I agree with the majority on this. If the globe is so important to this guy because of the family history, then coming up with the $300 shouldn't be an issue. You're as much a victim in this as the guy who had the globe stolen...

I'd stick to your guns. If the guy wants it, $300 is the price. Remember, possession is 9 tenths of the law. It's not like it's a car and it has a VIN number. How do you know that this is the exact globe that the guy had stolen? I'd discontinue contact with this guy and deal directly with his insurance company. My guess is that he's already been paid by his insurance company and looking to have his cake and eat it too.

Keep in mind you're into this globe for $300. The guy is offering you $150. If the globe is so darn important because of the family history, then he should be able to come up with the additional $150 needed to keep you whole. If I were this guy and the family history was so important, I'd pay even more.

My two cents. Good luck and let us know how things come out in the end.

Mac

John, If this globe belonged to me and it had family history there is no way I would let it go over 150.00, that is not that much money when you are talking about your history.. Do not let this guy take you for 150.00 You did the right thing, this is an insurance matter, his home owners should take care of this. not you.

John, If this globe belonged to me and it had family history there is no way I would let it go over 150.00, that is not that much money when you are talking about your history.. Do not let this guy take you for 150.00 You did the right thing, this is an insurance matter, his home owners should take care of this. not you.

$300.00 and no less IF YOU WANT TO SELL IT.

If you do a little checking odds are the farmer has already collected on his insurance and probably did very well. There is a good chance also that when the value was researched for the theift the farmer was surprised. To that point he would have parted with it for a lot less than $300.00. If he did get an insurance check it no longer belongs to him but to the insurance company and they want come after $300.00. Keep IT..
Greg

There is an assumption here the guy has insurance that will cover his globe loss. My insurance co., Amer. Family will not cover this kind of stuff as normal household furniture etc, and advised to buy a rider. You can buy a rider which is actually another policy to cover this stuff, guns, jewelry, etc. Prehaps the guy doesn't have any coverage on the globe and wants it for the $150. Myself I would sell it back to him for the money I have invested in it,not a penny less but he would have to prove to me that it was indeed his. And does the Mich.police have jurisdiction over this in Indiana for that small of an amount?

I say offer it at what you have into it, don't loose a penny.
As for the cops taking it back, it is not like a trailer or a car, there is no serial number to PROVE it is the stolen globe. (even if the guy admitted to it)
I was able to prove my stolen snake were in fact the ones the guy had because of very detailed pictures. That was a hard sell, the cops were not very helpful. They want to see proof and a globe does not have it. Unless the farmer had close up pics showing details that would show that these lenses were his, there is no way to prove it.
I even had to get experts to tell the police that the pictures of the snakes showed that they were the same animals.

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Sounds like another farmer trying to get something for nothing to me. He's probably already been paid by the ins. co. for it. Even if he hasn't, he still ought to be offering you a reward, not take advantage of you. There's no way I'd give that globe over for anything less than you have in it. If he can't come up with $300 in government subsidized, halfway-stolen-in-the-first-place farming money, then it must not be all that important to him. He probably just wants it back to sell it on ebay.

Wes

Hey is this guy Amish or what?

Hi Jarvis. Some interesting advice you are getting.
1. If it is stolen, you may be obligated to return it at a loss. It is illegal to obtain or own stolen property, even if a person didn't know.

2. Someone said they can't provethe globe you have is the one solen. Wrong. If the thief admits to taking it and selling it on ebay, all they need to see is a picture of it and thatyou bought it. Ebay sales records are very accurate.

3. I would deal with the police. I am suprised no one from the PD has tried to get the globe back.

4. I am assuming you are not being scammed by someone claiming to be the police trying to get it from you.

5. You sound like an honest guy. Hope it all works out for you. This is a buyers worst nightmare.

Quick story: Friend bought some tools at agarage sale. Paid cash. Police showed up two days at his house. They confiscated them. Long story short...he was out $250. After the trial etc..He was out the tools and the money. He talked to a lawyer and was told him he was out of luck. Best of luck.