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I have close to 50 clockface pumps and they all have the Gutts in them.The Gutts should be restored and detailed just like under the hood of a classic car. The museums are full of cars that will never be driven again but they still have there original drive trains and there detailed under the hood like new. If you gutt your pump then all you have is painted sheet metal.Its no longer a gas pump because it cant pump Gas.A properly restored gas pump with all the workings in side and detailed to working condition is a true museum piece and will always be worth more then one that has be molested.If I could ever figure out how to post pictures I would post one of the inside of my Bennett 154 cash recorder.
Jeff.

I prefer them intact but I'm not militant about it, I have both in my playroom. I kind of enjoy tinkering with the inner workings, I'm not trying to make a living restoring pumps so I can afford to take the extra time to restore everything. What I don't buy is leaving the guts out because you don't want the smell of old gas in your home. I mean really, the insides have to be properly restored as well.

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I restored an ERIE 450 clockface, and left the guts out. I had to build brackets to hold the clocks in place, The finished pump was very light, and looked fine, but to me it did not seem real. [Sorta like restoring a car and leaving the engine out] I finally took it apart and put the guts back in it. Also most pumps I have, I washed thru the pumps with soapy water, and was never bothered with old gas smell..RD

Here are photos provided by drgaspump of his Bennett 154 cash recorder. Beautiful pump and nice guts, Jeff. Thanks so much for sharing with us.

Those of you who prefer the guts in, when you find a pump for sale that has them removed do you consider it less valuable or pass altogether on it? Does it matter to you if its one you have been looking for?

Any thoughts,
Kim

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I have passed up many good clockface pumps in the past because they were gutted.I then started to buy them and just store until I can come across the insides. But I dont fill right paying top dollar for gutted clockface pumps because there only half there.I still fill that its only a real gas pump only if it can PUMP GAS.
Jeff.

I have only found pumps, that were farm fresh, mostly still fastened to the tank.It may seem hard to believe but in central Illinois, electricity was not available on farms untill the late 1940s.and early 1950, there were a lot of visibles still in use till about thirty years ago. then when bigger tractors started showing up, the farmers abandoned the old ones and just let them rot. till guys like us started buying them. I have never bought a pump that had been gutted.I probably would, just never had to.I just bought a Tokheim 620, yesterday, right off the farm it was placed on when it was new. All intact, but a bit rusty. Norm.

No guts, no glory !!! Leave 'em in....... guts are mechanically cool.

What about the gas dispensing pumps that never had a pumpmotor or related guts to begin with?
I own a Wayne 511 w/a Veeder-root computer & totalizer that was operated as a remote unit it's entire life.It had nothing more then a pipe running into it from a distant pumpmotor out of site.

cmeon66, you are right in that if I ask I will get an answer, and all were appreciated. I now know more on this subject. My plans are to remove all guts, disassemble, clean, reassemble, and put back together as I have done cars. I further plan at this stage to build a tank to fit in the bottom area of the pump to hold light weight oil, re-route the lines from the hose connection back to the tank so that the pump will run and everything move like it should. A closed circuit system. Yes, it will be outside of my shop, with safety measures.

Thurman, nice talking to you, and all of the information you got was from guys who have lived it, and enjoy shareing with the rest of us, we all have good ideas, and the end result is up to you.Good luck, Norm Huff.