Originally Posted By: MetroPetro
Where to start..............

I almost didn't post that the sign dodgeman posted was a phony. I usually just send an email or PM, because of the potential that the non-believers will jump in, as happened here. But I wanted all readers, not just Tim, to know that it is fake.
Tim asked if sign was authentic, I answered no it is not (fantasy). Unfortunately for him, that wasn't what he was hoping to hear, hopefully it wasn't an expensive learning experience. How about his second question? Has anyone seen one (legit) before? Anyone? I didn't think so.

r49th, I do not publicly post fantasy or reproduction sign discrepancies/information. My opinion is the forgers/fraudsters most certainly follow these discussions on oldgas, and I sure don't want to enable them to create better phonies than they currently are polluting the hobby with.

redindianguy- ditto

Terry, don't understand the venom. Who said "all signs are fakes" ? Possibly you are lumping me in with some newbies who are quick to state "real" or "fake" without a clue. I assure you that is not me.

Bob, you could not have removed any signs like the one pictured in the original post, as it is a later fantasy item. "Such signage" as the OP pic was NOT in use in the 60s-70s, period. Also, the photos you posted are of completely different design styles than the OP pic.

There are a couple of ways to disprove me, one being a photo of OP sign in use. Don't waste your time searching for one though, none exist as it is a fantasy sign. And Dave, if you turn up a photo of your Harley shield in use, I'd love to see it.

As an aside on this topic, to no one in particular, sometimes defenders of fakes are innocent/naive. Sometimes it may be because they took a chance and bought something that was too good to be true. Sometimes they really got burned, but no amount of eye shutting, finger crossing & hoping will change a fake into real. Maybe a defender is just waiting to pass along the fake to an unsuspecting buyer. Maybe they are in cahoots with the fakers, or maybe they are the faker.

PS A pic of the OP sign should go in the Known Unmarked Reproduction column.



Very well said Ed.....