thanks for all the help, I used "flickr" a little and found quite a few photos from wayne 70s to tokheim 300s or 39 shorts (if i i'd a pump wrong No offense to anyone- new to the pump world!) and the photo you posted show quite a mix of pumps plus a photo of a boron globe with a rocket- really slick. and as far as staying gold--- Tim Shepard's gang and our outfit are having it out with the socs in the vacant lot tonight!!! Great movie & Book ! Thanks for the info.