okay let's put the real story out therefine with purchased by david under the circumstances that he handle all shipping I told him I would crate it up and he was responsible to setup shipping and insurance my fedex driver agreed with me that the item was very sound when it left me I would have insured the item as I always do with thinks like this if I had set IP shipping how can I be responsible if I didn't set it up ....the packing was very sound when it left me it had crazy amount of zip ties holding it together ...I don't except anyone here to agree but why would i be responsible if he set it up .....post some pics let's see the damage