Hi,guy's sorry for taking so long in this reply. I, just an amateur has bought two hvlp in a packet. one primer, and one for finish. Like I said ,I have got by on farm things such as tractors, and the like, but nothing that would meet concourse,although they satisfied me. A friend is helping do the painting. He has painted his cars, and they look fine, but he is like me , new to gravety feed. The job turned out bad no matter what we tried. yes, orange peel was present indeed, plus pits. The paint store that I had bought them from said the paint was to thick, and should be reduced down to 50% to where it would be thin as water.They also said to try the primmer gun. The primmer gun didn't change any thing. The paint store that I bought the paint from said that I couldn't reduce the ful-thane urethane any more than 25%,so that is where I am at this time. Les