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I've been ask by a few, to post my way of restoring a pump on a low income budget, Even though they have a new book out on this subject, they can't cover everything. So I have some pictures at different stages of restoration. Here you go Trip. if you have any questions email me. the pump I'm working on is an National A-1 Double Display pump. but were just going to do the basic steps of restoration.

this is a National A-1 pump finsihed in porcelain, the pumps I'm doing are painted. but you can get an idea.

These are the pumps I'm doing. useing three bases.
I should start by saying everyone has a different way to re-build a pump. But this is the way I do it on a low fixed income budget.

Which ever pump you may have, it's all basically the same. You may run into difficulties but you have to think to get around them and, remember, it's your pump; you do what you have to in order to finish.
1. Know what company you want to do the pump in, what's available, check with the parts dealers for globes, matching decals or pump plates, or originals. Once you have this done and you get your parts, you can have your paint matched. Sometimes you might have to order from 3 or 4 different dealers to complete everything. Maybe faces, sight glasses from Ron Scobie, or globe and decals from Mike Slama, bezels from Gas Pump Heaven, other parts from Vic's, or hoses from the Cheese man.

2. I try to see the finished pump in my head first, so I have a goal. I use the year of the pump with the color that the company was using at that time, but you can take the decals and have the paint matched. You can obtain paint codes for some of the companies' paint colors, but most pump restorers match the color as close as they can.

3. Once you've done all that, make sure pump is gutted. Most can be gutted by removing the skins. Keep all the bolts and nuts in butter cups. You can write on the lids what they are for.

all the parts and the frame will be blasted.







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after the blaster,
5. Once gutted, remove the computer. Use high pressure air to blow it off. Then you can either soak it in a 5 gallon bucket of kerosene or spray it heavily with WD40. Also remove the light bar and sight manifold. There has been a lot of questions on removing the sight glass without breaking the glass. Sometimes you can use a punch and hammer to loosen the keeper ring. If you can't move it, Larry showed me that you can cut the housing with a hack saw to give some relief to the ring then try the punch again. The ones on the A-1 were so hard I cut both sides of the housing to remove the glass. The housing is covered so you can never see the saw marks anyway. It's better to save the glass because you cannot find it anywhere.


6. Now you're ready to take it to the powder coater for blasting. If you would rather do it yourself, that's fine too. But at my age I'd rather pay 100.00 than spend days cleaning with stripper and thinner, then sanding.





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mr, buck that is a great post,.would like to see the done product. cheese

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7. Once I get all this back from the blaster, I prime with cheap rattle paint cans the frame, base, manifolds, light bar. Then I paint the base. Now with this pump I'm using three bases that will be bolted together, so I've drilled holes in this base so the hose is on the outside. I've put all the skins inside for now. The next base will be drilled same measurements but both sides. Then the base for the right side and hose on the outside again will be drilled on the left side. But this is for a double showcase.

8. I clean the sight glass with Comet and a green scratch pad. All my small parts, nuts, bolts, machine screws , sight glass keepers, hinges, I soak in Real Lemon juice to remove the rust. There are other products that will do the job also. I leave them for 24 hours, but if they're real bad I leave them longer. Then I wire brush them and rinse them in water. Once dried, I lay them out on a paper towel on an old card table.


9. Put your sight glass assembly back in place and assemble it. The older pumps used not only tar to seal the wires from water, but cotton packing. You must get all this out using ice pick or probe, or anything to remove all this and the old wire. I'm having to replace all the sockets on this pump. I got them from Gas Pump Heaven. I'm also using red and black 12 /14 gauge wire and heavy duty toggle switches. Once the wiring is complete, it's time for the skins.

10. Some builders put the skins on first to make sure everything fits. On my pumps I drill out all the threads for the machine screws that hold the skins in place, so I use nuts. It's faster and stronger then re-threading for the screws. It has sat around for years rusting so I don't trust the old threads after they have been re-threaded.

11. Painting the skins. I don't have a problem using shake can primer to do the skins if the skins are smooth and straight. If they're dented or pitted bad, I use a primer filler. Or you can take them to an auto body paint shop and have the body work done and primered. And there are a lot of different Primers I'm going to use Larry's way. I use Enamel paint. It takes longer to dry, like three days, but I'm in no hurry. Then I clear coat it, and there's different kinds of that also. If you use a clear coat base coat and a hardener, always use a respirator. There's guys on this site like Jim Potts, Larry Ivy, Morgan, Gary Drye, Jim Treadway and others who are experts at painting and have posted many times on the best and more costly way to paint. My way is just a inexpensive way of doing it for my budget.

12. Larry's way,
1. The clear uses a hardner/activator they will tell you which one when you get the clear. Only buy enough pint/halfpint to activate that one quart of clear. Once you activate, its hard. I dont use reducer ,but ANY high quality URETHANE reducer will work. They are based on temp. Fast, medium, slow. A very small amount is required. Most manufacturers use 4 parts clear, 1 part activator, 1 part reducer optional. As soon as i try some other brand that is cheaper ill let you know. PPG is good stuff but they are pricey.

2. The Valspar Primer is DTM200_? depending on what color, white, buff, grey, black. It uses halfpint activator to 1 qt. primer with reducer optional. If you want it as a primer surfacer, use 1 part reducer, If you want it to fill dont use the reducer, only activator.

3) The heavy fill is Marhyde High Fill. Same thing as above in buff color but sands ands fills easier. Remember these are urethanes, not old laquer primer, and when they dry, they are HARD as a whores heart, so sanding is a consideration.

3) You can clean your gun with HOME DEPOT lacquer thinner if you can buy it there. If not you need to say so and I can bring you a few gallons.Its $7 a gallon here. HVLP Gun = high volume low pressure, think about getting one.


13. After you've painted your pump assemble it,

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BRAVO Dwainey..FUN FUN FUN.
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These parts should be nickel plated, but I can't afford that, so the powder coat place says he can make them look like nickel or better.

when I am finished there will be two pumps and a display in the center made from skins that had to be cut to 39 " and clear add glass thats being made by Mike Slama . The left pump will be the associated Moss green with a cream doors and this add glass,


the right pump will be a different color green the associated use and red doors, with this add glass.




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Dwaine.... Thanks for going to all the trouble to help out some of beginners.... very well done.
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Great post Dwaine!! Thanks for going to all the trouble to show us dummies how it's done!

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Thanks Dwaine. This is real helpful.
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Thanks Dwaine... You are the MAN!!! I really
appreciate that you practice what you preach.

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Great job Dwaine. Makes me wonder why I'm spending @ $400 on paint material per pump.

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Thanks Gang, theres so many guys that tell me they check in here, but never ask the questions on doing a pump at their level, which is my level. theres been times when I've been in a hurry an forgot the light bar and had to take the pump all the way appart. Don't tell me you haven't done thatha ha ha.
As far as the enamel paint goes, its just cheaper, the clear coat is what finishes the job. but if your going to put it outside I recommend the more pricey paint, it has U.V. protection in it. haven fun on the left.

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Maybe you should publish a book, Dwaine. Nice pics too.
Lots of help to everybody.
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Great step by step intructions, makes me want to get out there right now and start in again. Thanks alot. And im sure i'll have more questions.

ps. You really should consider writing a book. Not much like that out there.

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Trip, Jim Potts has a pump restoration book right now, if you buy from him some of the money goes for the up keep of this site.

Craig, heres the houseing in this post I was talking about.
Also if you notice the blue circle on the table is real thick batting that I cut to go behind the glass to take up the space for the old gasket. sometimes I have to use three of them.



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